Why the Miracle of Garabandal is not till Apr. 2024 at earliest...

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  1. Byron

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    According to the evidence Glenn has given us, yes, the Warning comes in an even year. But I didn’t hear her say that in the interview.
     
  2. Luan Ribeiro

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    I have thought about it several times, but I find it difficult to find a martyr of the Eucharist that is celebrated exclusively in the Orthodox Church or some martyr venerated in Our Church that is celebrated on a different day in the Orthodox Church.
     
  3. Byron

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    Ezdra - you may be right. May 13, 2021 is the feast day of a young martyr of the Eucharist and her name is Blessed Imelda - and I believe she is also celebrated on the 14th of May, but don’t quote me on that. There is no public statement that Conchita ever said April was the month of the Miracle. According to a private conversation with Conchita the month of April was discussed. This is not reliable in my opinion. I would rather believe what she said publicly, which was February to July, between the 7th and 17th.
     
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  4. Byron

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    I’m not saying it’s not April, I’m just saying it may be May. We don’t know. But I’m preparing. Walk with Christ.
     
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  5. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    It would be lovely if the Orthodox re-united with the Catholic Church. It would greatly strengthen Christendom and help us overcome anti-Christian forces of evil. But how many years do you estimate that re-union will take? Surely at least 5 years from now, the Pope has to go to Moscow also, which is not yet fixed. Anyway, here's an Orthodox list for April: http://www.abbamoses.com/months/april.html Any Eucharistic Martyr?

    If someone wants to include odd years for consideration of the Miracle, and also so we can compare where it falls in every year, here is an updated chart.

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    In the next 10 years, if we include odd years for consideration also up till 2030,

    (1) Possible years with St. Stanislaus as the Martyr are 3: 2024, 2025, 2030.
    (2) Possible years with St. Hermenegild as Martyr are 1: 2023
    (3) Possible years if Holy Thursday is fine for Miracle: 2028.
    (4) If Holy Thursday not possible, 2 years ruled out: 2022, 2028.
    (5) Four years where there is no Martyr at present: 2021, 2026, 2027, 2029.
     
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    Ezdra, I believe that Emmett O'Regan said that 100 years of satan to be actually two sets of 60 years each, 120 years or I should say that he wrote about this on his site.

    I am not familiar with St Bridget's prophecy about 2020, would you mind providing a link to some thing that I can read about this or providing a little more information on it. Thank you.
     
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    We live under an anti-Christ system of materialism, atheism, individualim and hedonism.

    I have said before there are many anti-christs in our world today for those who destroy innocent life in the womb offend the very nature of God Himself for we are made is His image and likeness.
     
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    Xavier - Blessed Imelda on May 13/14, 2021 is a very young martyr of the Eucharist and she’s not Spanish.
     
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    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Does anyone have a credible source proving that the Miracle or Warning will be only in an even year. I looked and found some claiming that, but I'm not sure if they're right:

    The author of this blog claims the Warning is in an even year, based on what "a friend of Mari Loli said" (no source to the interview). He believes the Warning may be in 2022 and the Miracle in 2023: "Apparently a friend of Marie Loli said that the Warning would be in an even year and others say that Conchita said that the Miracle would be in an odd year. This would fit this scenario if the Warning came in 2022 an even year and the Miracle in 2023 an odd year" A commenter says, "I had the warning in December of 1999. It lasted 27 minutes, and 19 years later, I still wait for "The Warning" to happen for the whole world. I believe that it will happen on November 1, on an even year, possibly this year. Mari Loli said that The Warning would happen on an even year, right after the Synod meets, and that is why I believe that it might be this year. The Synod takes place every year in October. I had a very vivid dream that the day of "The Warning" is November 1.

    You can only imagine what it is like to experience the warning. I was shown that I was going to hell, even though I believe in Jesus, thinking that I was going to heaven. Well, I was going to hell in how I was living my life.

    I can only tell everyone, "Prepare", because when it happens, if a person is not prepared, you might die if your body cannot handle the shock of what you see. In that case, a heart attack could ensue, and I believe that the person might possibly end up in hell, because that person was not prepared.

    People who are prepared will come out of it, given the chance to make amends and atonement for sins committed. It is a very serious, but merciful act that God will give us as one last chance to change toward one another. Forgiveness is key, but repentance is necessary, because without repentance, forgiveness is impossible.

    Confession, Mass and Sacrifice and good deeds toward one another helps, so God bless and have mercy on us all when "The Warning" occurs." http://aronbengilad.blogspot.com/2017/12/garabandal-warning-in-2022-two-stars.html This comes up in a brief search. Has anyone found any specific source?

    Possible, Byron. Blessed Imelda's feast is on May 13th. "Feast May 13" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imelda_Lambertini

    Is that ruled out because it is the feast of Our Lady of Fatima? "Today, the 13th day of May, is the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima" https://news.mb.com.ph/2017/05/12/feast-of-our-lady-of-fatima/

    If it is not ruled out, Byron, it appears that two years are possible, 2021 being one of them. That's based on the Miracle being on a Thursday.

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  10. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Anyway, the other criterion of the Pope going to Moscow has not been fulfilled. The Pope is going to Kazakasthan next year, in 2021. He will likely go to Moscow a few years later.

    "Vsevolod Chaplin was president of the social sector in the Department for External Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate. He was dismissed in 2015 for overly extremist positions. His revelation is an attempt to stop the meeting between the Pope and Kirill. For him, "the current pope has consciously decided to be the fifth column of the globalist project, which wants to destroy Christianity". In June 2018, Nazerbaev, then president, invited Pope Francis to the Inter-religious World Congress.

    Moscow (AsiaNews) - Pope Francis and the Orthodox patriarch of Moscow Kirill (Gundjaev) could meet in 2021 in Nur-Sultan, the capital of Kazakhstan, recently renamed so in honor of President Nazarbaev, according to the ex-president of the social sector of the Department for external relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, the protoierej Vsevolod Chaplin." http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chaplin:-Francis-and-Kirill-will-meet-in-Kazakhstan-in-2021-48103.html

    I hope millions more become informed of the Warning, and we who do know become much better prepared, by the time the Warning comes. God's Will be done.
     
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    Xavier - Heavens interpretation is not always the same as earths. Maybe Pope Francis already visited Moscow. His trip to Cuba to meet the Russian Patriarch was very significant. Remember how most of us misinterpreted Joey’s seeing the miracle with new eyes? Maybe the same goes with the trip to Cuba.
     
  12. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Thanks, Byron. My opinion is too few people still know of the Miracle and the Warning. Therefore, if the Warning comes now, too few will be prepared, and too few will be saved. Therefore, it will come after some time only imho, when people are better prepared. How many Catholics know of the Warning and are eagerly preparing for it? Maybe 20% of Catholics? Some 250 million. I believe it will come only when at least 2.5 Billion people, 1/3rd of the world's population, Catholic and non-Catholic, know of it and are eagerly preparing their conscience and hearts of it. Hence, why Heaven sends so many messengers these days, preparing our hearts for the Warning. Catholics also imo should feel called to prepare others for the Warning. Let us all try to announce the fact of the Warning to 100s of our Catholic and non-Catholic friends; some will believe, some will mock, that is up to them. Without speaking on the dates, we can tell a Warning will come soon, within Conchita's lifetime, so probably within 10 to 20 years. I believe that would be the best we can do. My personal belief is the Warning will not come for some time yet, because humanity is not fully prepared.

    I also believe the Pope fleeing Rome, as the seers at Fatima spoke of, has to literally happen before the Warning, and Mari Loli said in that 1982 interview posted earlier. Many people note that 100 years after Our Lord's Sacred Heart Consecration Command, because it was not done, France fell to the enemy. They say 100 years after the Immaculate Heart Consecration Command, which will be 2029, 100 years after 1929, Rome will fall to the enemy. And it will be shortly after that, we will have the Warning. We have been given a respite of more time to prepare better imo.

    God Bless.
     
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    Hi all,

    For now, I happen to be firmly in the St. Hermenegild camp, as I am convinced that he fits all the criteria, including being a "young martyr" and NOT being "Spanish." The kingdom of Spain simply did not exist in the sixth century, AD. I have also read opinions, claiming that St. Tarsisius is supposedly the "young martyr" in question, even though his feast day clearly falls in August. So, are we to rule out St. Hermenegild because he was around 20 or 21 when he was martyred? He clearly wasn't "old," and again, he certainly was NOT "Spanish."
     
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    Seems logical.

    Realistically though the world is moving more and more towards secular behavior. Like to the point we can't go any further in that direction.

    What exactly in the world would cause people to become educated on the Warning? I just don't see it happening.
     
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    Only a handful of people--presumably Catholics who are into prophecy, follow Garabandal, and I read that the numbers should have decreased dramatically following the death of Joey Lomangino. What would cause people to "become educated?" It's too late for the vast majority of people....They should have paid attention to all the prophetic warnings, especially in the past several years.....
     
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    8. St. Hermengild refused to worship bread, 585
    [​IMG]Catholics only recognize properly consecrated Hosts as the body and blood of Christ. This means not receiving communion at a non-Catholic church. And for one saint, that meant death. Visigoth King Leovigild had two sons, Hermengild and Recared. They were all Arians, who didn’t believe in the Divinity of Jesus Christ. Hermengild married a Catholic, the daughter of France’s King Sigebert, and her faith converted him. The prince’s father was so enraged, he imprisoned his son to try to force his conversion. He sent an Arian bishop to administer communion to the prince, but the prince refused what St. Gregory later called “the Communion of a sacrilegious consecration.” While any priest, even a priest who is in a state of sin, can consecrate the Eucharist, he is only successful if he intends to do what the Church does. His father had his son killed in his cell in punishment.

    https://www.thegregorian.org/2019/real-presence-real-faith-9-eucharistic-martyrs

    I thought this was interesting in light of other prophecy and places talking about the words of consecration being changed.
     
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    What about if both faiths decided on the same date for Christmas?
     
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    Christmas AND Easter might change
    But the prophecy was given with the former liturgical calendar
    Was it about 1962?
     
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    Hispania was so called since at least Roman times. It was not then a kingdom but a Roman province, it was still Spain even if it included the country now known as Portugal. At the time Britain wasn't a united kingdom and its borders don't match those of today but it was still, substantially, Britain. To say that the saint was not Spanish is a very arguable matter and I, for one would say that he clearly was.
     
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    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Thanks, everyone for the responses. I am not sure all the assumptions are right anymore. It seems like it's only the Warning that needs to be in an even year. Not necessarily the Miracle. Byron mentioned this.

    Thanks, Byron. So yes, it still is possible the Warning will happen in autumn of this year itself. I read a recent mystic say it would happen this year.

    To the other things, yes its unsure if more people will believe in the Warning if more time passes. I no longer believe some of the things I wrote earlier on the thread, which were based on various assumptions.
     

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