Why the Miracle of Garabandal is not till Apr. 2024 at earliest...

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  1. indaiatubano

    indaiatubano Archangels

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    How about May 14th. The feast day of ST. CORONA.
     
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  2. Byron

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    Xavier, the Warning, not necessarily the Miracle, will happen on an even year. So, if the Warning happens this Fall of 2020, the Miracle in April/May of 2021 is still within the 12 months. It can occur.
     
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  3. Byron

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    That is news to me. Because I have always read it was within the year.
     
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    If I may pop in again to comment. Byron, I thought the same as you did, so I just checked to see what Glen says about it. This very question was asked and Ezdra is correct, according to Glen, the warning and miracle are both in the same year (not within 12 months).
     
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  5. Byron

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    Yes, according to Glenn.
     
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    Don't look now...but that phrase "when communism returns" is ringing a BIG bell. As much as some good that Trump has done...he certainly is fulfilling prophesy with this shutdown of the economy and then ballooning the size of the federal government. It even raises an eyebrow when you have a statist rag like the WSJ who loves crony-capitalism acknowledging big government.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-means-the-era-of-big-government-isback-11587923184
     
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  7. Byron

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    It’s worrisome.
     
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    Shae - I found the interview with Mari Loli and she says “within 12 months”.
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  10. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Thanks, Byron. Very nice interview.

    I believe the other interview people are referring to when they say the Miracle and the Warning will be within the same year is Mari Loli's 1975 interview:

    "Question: Did the Blessed Mother tell you not to speak about the Warning?
    Answer: No, She didn't, but, because the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year, I feel it inside not to say anything.

    Question: How do you know the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year?
    Answer: During an apparition — I don' t remember just when — the Blessed Virgin told me."

    http://www.1260.org/Mary/Apparitions_Garabandal/Garabandal_Apparitions_Warning_en.htm

    Edit: a lot of very interesting information in the link; I'm just reading it thoroughly. For e.g. the Visionary seems to say the Pope will not be in Rome and openly persecuted when the Warning takes place. So, that would have to happen first:

    "Question: Did the Blessed Mother ever say anything about the Holy Father having to leave Rome at the time of the Warning?

    Answer: No, but what it looked like to me — maybe at this time I was confusing in my mind what I was seeing and what the Blessed Mother was saying to me because it's been so many years — but what it looked like to me was that the Pope couldn't be in Rome either, you know what I mean, out in the open. He was being persecuted, too, and had to hide just like everybody else." (Interview with Mari Loli October 19, 1982)

    I wonder if that is connected to the vision in the Fatima Third Secret released by the Vatican in 2000 A.D.
     
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    Thank you both for posting those interviews, Byron and Xavier. I can see now why there are two different thoughts on this.(n)
     
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    My belief is that the miracle will occur on April 15, 2032.

    * The 2000th anniversary of Christ's death will be in 2033. ​

    * The warning and miracle will prepare us for this great anniversary for mankind. I believe the reason why the Holy Father will initially go to Russia before 2032 to work something out between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches to celebrate Easter in 2033 in unison. He will do this in the midst of great upheaval in the world with regards to problems with Russia. The great event in the Church, coincidental to the miracle, will be related to this unification endeavor and Christ's death's anniversary the following year.​

    * And the 15th is the DATE of St. Tarcisius (even though his feast is in August).

    * Conchita would be 83 yrs old. Still within the age range.​

    I think the "coincidence" of us living within the 2000th anniversary of Christ's death in 2033 is no small matter and cannot easily be discounted in the spiritual matters of Garabandal, the warning, and miracle...



     
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    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    Speaking of 2033, it seems that there is a huge Jubilee planned for that year, just like for 2000, but even greater:

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    EVANGELIZATION 2033
    At the Service of the Catholic Church through Proclamation – Formation – Mission – Prayer

    ABOUT US . . .

    Fr Tom Forrest (1927-2018) was the founder of Evangelization 2000 in 1985 and he set up, together with other co-founding Continental Directors, Evangelization 2000 so that the People of God in the Catholic Church would be trained in Evangelization and Mission. The early initiatives was a huge Priests’ Retreat in Rome in 1990 and the dedication of the decade 1990-2000 which was described as "A Project Promoting a Decade of Evangelization in Anticipation of the Great Jubilee Year."

    After the Year 2000 was over, in line with Pope John Paul II vision of the New Millenium, it was not a time for resting our oars but to “go forward in hope! A new Millennium is opening before the Church like a vast ocean upon which we are obliged to venture" (NMI #58).

    In 2009 the name was changed to EVANGELIZATION 2033. The Greatest of All Jubilees, the Year 2033, marks the 2000 Anniversary of the Passion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of All Mankind. And in anticipation of this Greatest Jubilee EVANGELIZATION 2033 continues with the same vision of Evangelization 2000: making Christ known to the very ends of the Earth.

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    What Evangelization 2033 is:

    • A service of PRAYER, PROCLAMATION AND FORMATION encouraging the Training of Clergy, Religious and especially the Laity to become Missionary Disciples mainly through Schools of Evangelization
    • A Response to the call of Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis challenging us to a NEW EVANGELIZATION which is the essential mission of the Church;
    • A concrete way to foster the Church's primary and universal mission of Evangelization (Evangelii Nuntiandi, #14."
    http://www.evangelization2033.eu/ My belief is we should use the remaining years well to evangelize for the Truth of the Warning also, which will give the greatest impetus to World Evangelism in history when it comes.

    Some also say Pope Saint John Paul II already effectively confirmed the Message of Garabandal is from the Mother of God when the Holy Father said: "May God reward you for all your work, especially for the deep love with which you are making known the events related to Garabandal. May the message of the Mother of God be received in people’s hearts before it is too late. As an expression of joy and gratitude, the Holy Father wishes to impart his apostolic blessing to you.” https://www.garabandalthemovie.com/en/garabandal/witnesses/353-st-john-paul-ii I wish Churchmen would take much greater interest in Garabandal than they are doing now. But the Laity must help in it also.
     
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    Has anyone found the interview in which Conchita states that the Miracle must be in an even numbered year? I can't remember seeing that anywhere. Thank you.

    I suppose that this all rests with Mari Loli statements and whether or not the Warning and the Miracle are in the same year or within 12 months of each other but do we have the interview in which Mari Loli states that the Warning is in an even year? Thank you again.
     
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    Mari Loli says in person for everyone to hear within 12 months. Not the same year.
     
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    And what if the Catholic and Orthodox churches unite for Easter date prior to the Warning and Miracle, as is God's holy will? And it could be a saint of the Orthodox faith. Hmmmm
     
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    Hi Ezdra, Is this the event you are refering to on May 14 at the Vatican? As far as I know, the Vatican is still on their own lock-down.

    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatic...pact-on-education-event-moved-to-october.html

    Global Compact on Education event moved to October
    The Congregation for Catholic Education announces that the Global Compact on Education will take place from 11-18 October 2020. The event had originally been scheduled for May 2020.
    By Vatican News

    The Global Compact on Education, an event promoted by Pope Francis “to revive commitment to and with the younger generations”, has been postponed from 10-17 May to 11-18 October 2020.

    The decision to reschedule the event was taken in light of the “uncertainty linked to the spread of Coronavirus, along with the decisions taken by public authorities on a global scale”, according to a press release from the Congregation for Catholic Education, which has been entrusted with task of organizing the event.

    “The Global Pact is not limited to educational and academic institutions but rather, in the belief that commitment to education must be shared by all, involves representatives of religions, international bodies and the various humanitarian institutions, of the academic, economic, political and cultural world”, the Congregation said.

    “From this perspective”, the statement continues, “it can be understood that the broader and more varied participation desired by Pope Francis is not an additional dimension to the Global Compact on Education but rather constitutes at the same time the premise and purpose of such an alliance”.

    03 March 2020, 14:14
     
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    Always possible - God's timeline is hard to guess.
     
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    Byron, Does Mari Loli say even numbered year for the Warning in this interview?

    I remember watching this a few times in the past but I don't remember all the specifics, I guess it is time for me to watch it again. Thanks.

    Edited to add: I re-watched the video but Mari Loli does not state that the Warning will occur in an even-numbered year in this particular interview. She does state that she was given the year that in which the Warning will occur and she does state that the Warning will be within 12 months of the Miracle because the Blessed Mother told her these things.

    Maybe someone else here knows which interview in which Mari Loli stated that the Warning will occur in an even-numbered year. Thanks again.

    Chiara, I keep forgetting that this was postponed. In any case, May 14th is a big date because of Our Lady of Fatima but member garabandal is right - only God knows (in my words, well, sort of;)).
     
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