Hi you are very welcome to the forum Kelly, it is a pleasure to have you here all the way from Cumming Georgia. I am going to be selfish and jump in and ask you a question before anyone else can if you don't mind. I am delighted you are here for I have been praying about this and couldn't think of an answer. I finished one of your books a few weeks back. ..and became deeply attracted to the Devotion to the Divine Will. So I just finished a few days ago< View attachment 1762 So my question is, is there some simple little book about how to put the Devotion into everyday practice? Many, many thanks for introducing me to do this , I consider it one of the great spiritual finds of my life. Another nosey question, how did you find this little forum.? God bless great to have you here.
I found this forum after you began a discussion about my recent article on Russia, as found here: http://twoheartspress.com/blog/what-is-russia-up-to-where-will-it-lead/ As far as a simple little book about the Divine Will, I might recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/Divine-Will-Prayer-Luisa-Piccarreta/dp/B00BVS41FA
For those of you on the forum with as poor a memory as mine: Yes Kelly is the same Dr Kelly Bowring mentioned in the thread False Prophets hearsay of saints and Popes " I got a message from a false visionary the other day funny enough , one of the three Patrick's. You might recall I banned him off th forum pretty quick a while back. He also says this Pope and Pope Benedict were/are false and evil. His email was very critical of me. I am tempted to reply to coax him out of this stuff but I think in things like the Two Patrick's and MDM they are very,very, very far gone when they publish this stuff to be honest. But I must remember to pray for them all. They need prayers so badly. When you read the punishments reserved for False Prophets in the Bible it would turn your hair white. They may live, but they live under the huge wrath of God, He is very strict about such stuff. " Pasted from <http://motheofgod.com/threads/false-prophets-hearsay-of-saints-and-popes.4204/page-8#post-33239> So you can understand my confusion when i read this Welcome to new Members thread. I have since discovered the real debate is at the Two Era's of Peace and Russia thread. I copy a quote from a post of Kelly's here , for one thing ,to generate a link to that thread. But also to show Kelly is fortunate that Padraig has a soft spot for him. (I have a soft spot for the Two Patricks and in my opinion the Two Patricks are not as dangerous as Dr Kelly when he supports MDM. ) " In my examination, MDM is credible. And "exposing" who she is does not discredit her as some suggest... She is in good standing with her own Bishop (who has jurisdiction in this matter and who has issued no condemnation of her writings), and thus the Catholic faithful are permitted to continue reading and sharing her reported messages. It is interesting that he hasn't issued any warning against her writings, and especially given their so serious of a nature. I have been researching her messages, now over 1000, since the beginning and have not found an error in them. Her prophecies match well with other prophecies and some have already come true. Her messages, even concerning the Pope, are plausible and I would even say possible. See my related article here: http://twoheartspress.com/the-great...ine-mercy-pope-francis-and-the-false-prophet/ " Pasted from <http://motheofgod.com/threads/two-eras-of-peace-and-russia.5795/>
Kelly. Once again welcome to the forum. I love you passion and research for the truth. It is great to have you here and I hope you stick around because there is a lot we can learn from your dedication to research. I just can't get behind MDM but that does not mean that I have anything against you or your position on it. It is just not for me and I don't wish to be involved with the potential for the deception. The devil is smarter than all of us so I choose to not like to open that door even a crack to let him in. He had me for way to long in life and now I belong to Our mother and always pray that she keeps me under her most holy mantle. I have been personally attacked by evil this year already and it was not pleasant but Our Mother was there to help me. One of the best things about Mary was that she always obeyed. She was the servant of The Lord in life and in heaven. She even humbled herself and obeyed the church and priest at garbandal and we need to learn from that. We know by Our Lord that by their fruits we will know them so until or if Francis's fruits ever rot I will be right there with you but right now his fruits are sweet and ripe and Christ like if you ask me and therefore I trust in him and the Holy Spirit that came to the hearts of the Cardinals that elected him.
So... Kelly Bowring... do you believe Maria Divine Mercy and her private revelation ? I'm honestly and objectively trying to ascertain your credibility for my own personal discernment. A simple yes or no will do, thanks.
I think many people want the mystics they come across to be legit and can get quite attached to certain ones like MDM but we have to be extremely careful and pray pray pray for discernment because we know what Jesus warned that in the end times there will be many false prophets and the false prophets can be rather sneaky and only change a little in their messages. The false prophets have the deceiver behind them and he isn't called the father of lies for nothing. When you open the door even a crack on a cold winter day that cold rushes right through your whole house.
I believed in the false Prophet, another Irish lady called Christina Gallagher for years and years. Having been hood winked myself makes me a lot more mellow towards others who have had the wool pulled over their eyes. Thank God I never wrote any approving books referring to her. But if I had been an author I would have and then had to eat loads of humble pie. Its a bit like being a sinner, your heart goes out to other sinners. ..and I don't think I would have been the easiest person in the world to fool. Her Spiritual Director by the way was a very holy and well respected, learned Seminary Professor and he fell for her hook, line and sinker. Difficult times, difficult, difficult times. But I would say that there is a whole world of difference from being very gullible to being very bad..and don't I just know it. But I don't expect any of us will ever get into heaven for being infallible.
I still think Christina Gallagher started out a true prophet, then took a hard left. A protestant prophet, John Paul Jackson, says people with the gift of prophecy can end up working for the enemy when God cuts off communication. They're so accustomed to the thrill of receiving messages, they start scanning on other channels and end up with the demonic.
Sigh. If true this makes it even more difficult to tell. Christina was supposed to have had the stigmata you know. View attachment 1768
I have done my time with following false prophets including the Two Patricks many years ago. I was partial to MDM but I never gave her my full confidence and I generally prefer to keep a safe distance from all private revelation. Once bitten as they say. I sympathize with anyone who is disappointed by a visionary who is wrong or takes a wrong turn. Ive been there. I have read some of Dr Bowring's books and he is a wonderful researcher and a great addition to this forum. Welcome and I look forward to reading your contributions. God bless Mary
MDM is most definitely a false prophet... I can give you all the proof you need. These false prophets need lots of prayer for deliverance from this massive deception. God Bless
MDM / Mary Carberry is definitely a false prophet. In the very nature of her name "Maria Divine Mercy" - only God is divine. Not even the Blessed Virgin Mary is called divine. MDM calls herself "divine", this is heresy snd blasphemous. MDM is the pseudonym used by Mary Carberry a PR business woman who has dabbled in psychic readings and is known for her association with medium Joe Coleman. MDM and her followers CANNOT PROVE that the "SPIRIT" she channels the messages from IS actually "JESUS". Mary Carberry's own business partner Martin Roth has confirmed that Mary Carberry receives her messages by "channeling "Jesus" ". And she does automatic speed writing. Channeling, mediums, psychic readings are an abomination to God (Deuteronomy). Another concern is that MDM does not have a spiritual director. MDM and her followers cannot provide the name of an authentic, legitamate, non-excommunicated, priest who is MDM's spiritual director. So Mary Carberry/MDM has no spiritual guidance or direction and there is no priest who can verify or authenticate that the messages truly come from Jesus and not from some demon spirit or Satan. It is incorrect to say that MDM's own local bishop has given her messages approval. Here MDM and her followers need to provide the written signed proof of this. To date there is no official approval from MDM's local bishop. There however, has been written condemnation of MDM and her messages by several bishops globally and reputable bible scholars/theologians. Another reason MDM is a false prophet is her messages regarding Pope Francis. MDM followers are very anti Pope Francis and openly reject Pope Francis as a valid pope. This is in contradiction to Church teaching and is self excommunication. MDM followers still attend mass and receive Holy Communion while rejecting the Holy Vicar of Christ - which is a mortal sin. Another problem with MDM messages are that many of MDM prophecies have failed to come true. And some just cannot be proven like the keys given to the Church now being taken back by God....? If this is so then there is no Church on earth and no Sacraments - priests ordained of late are invalid. The Eucharist is invalid. MDM incites disobedience to Jesus' s Holy Church and Jesus' s Holy Vicar Pope Francis. St Padre Pio was uncompromising when it came to obedience to the Holy Church and to the Vicar of Christ. He refused to be disobedient. Mary Carberry /MDM has fast become a cult. With members not being allowed to question MDM or MDM's messages. MDM members truly believe in the MDM messages and that it is only through the MDM messages and the book of truth, the seal, that all souls can be saved. MDM is preparing her members for her remnant church. Mary Carberry / MDM is one very very scary lady.
Hi Krizevac, Mary was connected with the medium, Joe Coleman. This has been verified. I found the following on a forum where posters were asking about Joe. 3rd Nov 2009 …”Does anyone know if Joe is still in Ballyfermot giving readings and if so would anyone have his number to make appointment to see him? Would love to get a reading done.” “you have to go to him, usually. or come and collect him and will go to a house if there is a few people to see him 4-5. He does not drive himself. i think he is very good. Some times he is busy , and you would have to wait a few days , or more to see him.” “He doesn’t need to use cards. The Virgin Mary speaks directly through him, and only asks for €60, which isn’t bad, you have to admit, for a direct conversation with the Mother of Jesus. Even Ben Dunne couldn’t beat that.” “For the record, the one time I went to see Joe Coleman he did tarot cards with me, and said 2 members of my immediate family that had passed on were in the room, this is where I felt quite calm and comforted. The Virgin Mary was mentioned once, he said he prays to her and has had visits, I didn’t ask anything about it, he didn’t offer anymore information. I was very pleased with the tarot reading, BUT I will stress this, even though I believe in the afterlife I take all readings with a pinch of salt. The point I was trying to make is that I found him to be a very nice person, who strongly believes in what he does. “ 4th Nov 2009…”This man claims to be a Marian visionary therefore it could be assumed that he presents himself as a Catholic or Christian.” Despite this, he operates in the psychic / medium / new age arena – which is completely contrary to Catholism and Christianity. Its fairly simple. If you are a Catholic or Christian then you should have nothing to do with psychics / mediums and the new age “movement”. If you are not Catholic or Christian then by all means seek whatever you want to seek – but then why would anybody seek “comfort” from a person who claims to be a Marian visionary if they are not Catholic / Christian. “This man is a walking contradiction.” “I’d say Joe is both, he is also clairvoyant and a visionary.” The following list of people participated in Joe’s spiritual/ prayer sittings. The name Mary Carberry aka MDM can be clearly seen. Also notice the name 'Herzmariens' this is the German publisher/promoter of the Book of Truth. Leo Murtagh Offline chris mcmahon Offline Dave Offline Gary Branigan Offline Janet Dunne Offline Louise Toal Offline Lyn Furlong Offline Mary Carberry Offline Sean lydon Herzmariens. Mary Carberry has stated to her admins on FB that Joe is a true visionary! Now if Mary says he is a true visionary then it isn't God telling her this....isn't that so? Also seeing as Mary had a supposed message from God concerning Marie Paul who also has connection with Mary C with positive comments..why didn't God warn her about his connection with the Little Pebble? It doesn't take much to see the truth in all of this. God Bless
There is no way anyone with any common sense can now claim Mary Carberry is a true prophet...it's all over for her. Lots of prayer for her and Joe please.
We already have a thread here called" MDM messages ". There is a plethora of MDM errors listed . Heres the link: http://motheofgod.com/threads/mdm-messages.5379/
Thankyou Nosbor, Janet and Glenn. My biggest problem is that no amount of logic works, and I get so few windows to dialogue about MDM with my relative because MDM's followers are told not to try to defend the messages. Duh, they are indefensible. Cult leader tactics. Prayers!
They are told not to defend them because they can't... there are just too many errors. But her association with Joe Coleman, another poor souls being deceived, is a massive red flag! Lots of prayers! God Bless You http://aquiness.wordpress.com/category/from-the-pits-of-hell/
