Vigano Being Vindicated

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  1. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    To tell you the truth, if Donald Trump is not elected to do the next four years as President, I will be wondering if Abp Vigano is not just another false prophet. He did say publicly God was going to ensure Trump got elected again. We will have to wait and see.
     
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    2024 if not 2020

    I think He did not say that God was going to ensure a victory...I think he predicted that God would.

    There is a huge difference
     
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  3. Watch the video. True and beautiful. Fully Catholic in its presentation. I came away moved and praising God.
     
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  4. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    The problem for me with this is the same predicament as all the other alleged prophets who told us to prepare for big revelations in October 2020. And we are now hearing prepare for November, and who knows if that will be extended to December and on and on and on.

    Saying Abp Vigano maybe meant 2020 or 2024, is that not just kicking the prophetic can down the road.

    Abp Vigano revelations almost wiped me out in 2018; it took months to come to terms with what he revealed. I wish he had just focused on the Church internal crisis. That was enough of a bombshell. God help and direct him and keep him safe and saved.

    It is true Republican government seem to be supporting a more tolerant, Christ centred society, so of course we hope for their re-election. In God we Trust. God bless America, and preserve the country from a marxist takeover. God bless Abp Vigano, and give him the grace to stay faithful.
     
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    I haven't been following Viganò. Just knew cane to know of him in this past year. But I'm wondering as I've read he is in hiding.. is he and why is he in hiding?
     
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    Well, Fede, if you feel called by God to pick up the mantle of a John the Baptist, there is one advantage you have over the 1st century, AD. You can use the medium of cyberspace to convey your message. It is readily available and you don't have to stand outside the King's palace rebuking him for adultery. :barefoot::eek:

    I believe Archbishop Vigano is playing it safe because it gives him the means to prolong the prophetic ministry he feels God has called him to.:cool: Interestingly, Tucker Carlson "has gone out to the wilderness" to listen to him! Listen to the first couple minutes.

    Surprise, surprise! The video isn't available.:rolleyes::mad:

    1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 2 As it is written in Isaiah the prophet,
    "Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, who shall prepare thy way;
    3 the voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight—"
    4 John the baptizer appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. 5 And there went out to him all the country of Judea, and all the people of Jerusalem; and they were baptized by him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins. 6 Now John was clothed with camel's hair, and had a leather girdle around his waist, and ate locusts and wild honey.


    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
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    Thanks, AN!(y)

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
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    Thank you AN.

    Good grief, the Democrat Progressives and the Republican Neocons and RINO's planned for Joe Biden to be in power for the great reset. Presumably because unlike Trump, Biden can be easily controlled.

    I recently saw a video, I think it was here in one of the threads, where Canada's PM Justin Trudeau is actually admitting that the Coronavirus lockdowns pose an excellent opportunity to begin this great reset. Imagine, we have arguably the least gifted people thinking that they can re-engineer the daily life of people living in the West. They are in essence taking the greatest gift that God gave us, our free will, and taking it from us, to establish a socialist paradise to meet the requirements of the new Elite. :eek:

    Don't be fooled into thinking that this sacrifice they plan for us will eventually improve the quality of life for the poor of the world. No, this is all about their bottom line. If these people truly cared there is nothing stopping Bill Gates from distributing his wealth to people in poor countries. If you can gauge from the past, it will make things much worse for the poor.

    I well remember in the 60's when the progressive intelligentsia was pushing manufacturing from the U.S. to China, to help the Chinese people reach the dream of the middle class. Instead they jump to their deaths from the factories because life is so much worse for them. :eek::cry:
     
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    I believe I have read all of Vigano's statements since 2018 and watched all of his interviews. I don't recall him claiming any apparitions, locutions etc. ; nothing extraordinary.

    So his "prophetic mission " should not be viewed as relaying anything other than an extreamly intelligent, holy Bishop who witnessed firsthand the corruption in the Church. In good conscience, he could not alow the deceptions and cover up to go unreported. His opinion that Trump will win an election is just that...A conclusion he reached, perhaps in prayer.

    As to why he is in hiding...Whistleblowers on the gay mafia tend to die in mysterious circumstances.
     
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  11. He does have a devotion to Our Lady of Civitavecchia. In fact, a drop of the aromatic liquid that manifested itself during Her apparitions there landed on the head of Archbishop Viganò. IMHO, I believe he was blessed by the Mother of God from that moment forward with amazing graces for his huge mission.
     
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    non sum dignus,

    It is tempting, especially around major feasts like Christmas and the Easter Triduum to focus only on prophecies that revolve around predictions of the coming Messiah. These are precious and important. But the vast bulk of prophetic literature in the Bible centers on Israel's failure, especially among its leadership, to live out the covenant obligations. Those are primarily social justice failures and issues involving worship of the One True God. Consider the following passage from Isaiah where God admonishes Israel for their "empty worship and fasts":

    Isaiah 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as if they were a nation that did righteousness and did not forsake the ordinance of their God; they ask of me righteous judgments, they delight to draw near to God. 3 `Why have we fasted, and thou seest it not? Why have we humbled ourselves, and thou takest no knowledge of it?' Behold, in the day of your fast you seek your own pleasure, and oppress all your workers. 4 Behold, you fast only to quarrel and to fight and to hit with wicked fist. Fasting like yours this day will not make your voice to be heard on high. 5 Is such the fast that I choose, a day for a man to humble himself? Is it to bow down his head like a rush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? Will you call this a fast, and a day acceptable to the LORD? 6 "Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the thongs of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? 7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? 8 Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you, the glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard. 9 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, Here I am. "If you take away from the midst of you the yoke, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness, 10 if you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then shall your light rise in the darkness and your gloom be as the noonday.

    The highlight above identifies that the source of God's judgment originates because of false worship: daily we pray and fast and seek God's face- where are you Lord? (v.2 and 3). Well, their form might have been correct, but they had failed to love their neighbor as themselves, to seek justice for the poor and the widows.

    In our own day, we are tempted to think everything will be fine if we purge the priesthood of sexual depravity and return to the incorruptible liturgy of the TLM. I like Taylor Marshall who has encouraged a return to the perennial Liturgy and for us to pray the Rosary daily. But Marshall doesn't stop there, but correctly claims we also need to practice the Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy. They are not simply add-ons, but are necessary for authentic reform. This holds especially true for the Spiritual Works of Mercy which we laity are to participate in, also.

    So I believe that Vigano is a true prophet, for he is calling for authentic, Catholic reformation; especially in the clergy, but that doesn't let laity off the hook.

    The seven corporal acts of mercy: to feed the hungry, to give drink to the thirsty, to clothe the naked, to give shelter to homeless, to visit the sick, to visit the imprisoned, and to bury the dead.

    The seven spiritual acts of mercy: to instruct the ignorant, to counsel the doubtful, to admonish the sinner, to bear wrongs patiently, to forgive offenses willingly, to comfort the afflicted, to pray for the living and the dead
     
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    Your words are so insightful and true.

    No doubt the Holy Spirit guided you. This is a word I needed to hear tonight.

    Revelation 21:5
    Behold, I make all things new.
     
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  14. Dolours

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    Julia, Archbishop Vigano made no prophecy other than that God wins in the end. He may be a prophet in the sense explained by Mario. I'm not sure that he is, although I do believe that he is a man of integrity who wants to do right by the Church in his old age after giving a lifetime of service. My fear is that in his zeal to do right he could be used by people who don't have the Church's best interests at heart.

    His life could well be in danger. People forget that it was he who began the clean-up of the Vatican's finances and when he was getting too close they had him shifted to America. Satan has very powerful allies inside and outside the Church who seem to be working in tandem.

    It seems to me that all the talk about a Marxist takeover in America is wide of the mark. It looks more like America is heading towards a kind of plutocracy. There is a group of super wealthy people in the Republican party who are no different than the super wealthy people controlling the Democratic party. The Republican plutocrats just pay lip service to a different set of voters but essentially there appears to be no difference between the likes of Romney and Pelosi. Trouble is that controlling America isn't enough for these plutocrats. They want to control the world. Having ordinary Joe Soaps square off against each other makes it easier for them to keep control while maintaining a facade of democracy. The likes of BLM are just useful tools to them.

    Have a look on youtube for clips of Zuckerberg and other tech oligarchs at the Senate hearings. The tech giants were all working together to control the narrative, tracking people across the internet and colluding with each other to shut down and shut out anyone whose opinions they disagreed with. One Senator rightly called them robber barons. The trouble is that any Senator from either party who genuinely cares about free speech needs first to deal with the robber barons in his own party, be it Republican or Democrat, and that won't happen because the robber barons are too powerful.

    We need to pray a lot for the world, and we need to pray even more for the Church.
     
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  15. Dolours

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    Let's not forget what the priest who had worked in the US nunciature said when he confirmed that there were restrictions imposed on the Cardinal. He let people know that if he were found dead it wouldn't be because he had committed suicide.
     
  16. SgCatholic

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    I finally got the time to watch this.
    Thank you AN, for posting it.

    3 years ago while on a family holiday, I happened to meet and speak with Dr Robert Moynihan in Assisi.
    We were at the same English Mass at a small chapel within the grounds of the Basilica of St Francis of Assisi.
    I was impressed by Dr Moynihan's humility and gentleness.
    Although there were many things I wished to speak about with him, I couldn't even hint at them, because my family members, who don't share my views on the crisis in the Church, were with me.

    God Bless Dr Moynihan for his dedication and sacrifice in his work.
    I must include him in my daily prayers.

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  17. You are welcome, Sg Catholic.
    What a privilege it must have been, indeed! I will, hopefully, be purchasing his book at some point.
     
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    Patrick Coffin has a fascinating interview with Dr. Moynihan. It's more in depth than most and shows that Archbishop Vigano is a man of integrity, a true servant and Shepherd of Christ's Church who had been worried about corruption in the Church for a long time. It also shows how low the bad elements inside the Church are willing to go in their efforts to besmirch anyone trying to root it out. This video is a must watch:
     
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    By chance I listened to this last night. Robert Moynihan is a deeply good and holy man, but like so many deeply good people more than a little innocent. Still I think the poor man has gotten his eyes opened the last while. Thank God I don't work in the Vatican as he does.

    There seems to be a separation of the sheep and goats at the moment. Folks choosing sides.

    It's truly wonderful to see good people waking up. Marvellous.

    Patrick Coffin seems to have closed the book on Pope Francis, thank God. It was depressing all those people trying to fine excuses for his horrible goings on.

    Robert Moynihan was in the canteen in Santa Marta, the luxury hotel wherein the Pope has his abode. There was a buffet. Robert had arranged to meet Archbishop Vigano and wanted to have words with Pope Francis to see if he wanted a message sent. Francis was a t the buffet table and talked to him. But Pope Francis blanked him. Not a word, just turned on his heels and hoofed it.

    He is clearly on the enemy list for having truck with Vigano.

    Blanking people is horrible.

    Thank God the Holy Father lives hundreds and hundreds of miles away.



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