New Low in Ireland?

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by Mario, May 14, 2022.

  1. Mario

    Mario Powers

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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It's my understanding that this bill was not put into law, but my keeping up with the news is patchy and unreliable. I do know that there is an upcoming march for life in Dublin.

    The latest controversy is about the proposed new National Maternity Hospital. As far as I can see, there appears to be more interest in ensuring the murder of babies in this institution than the safe delivery of them.
     
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  3. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Thank you, DeGaulle!
     
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  4. padraig

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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's a strange, sad thing. But it's only lately I am starting, through the grace of the Good God, to fully understand what a terrible, terrible thing the murder of the unborn is.

    All I can say is, it's a wonder God does not strike us all dead on the spot for permitting it.
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Totally agree.
     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    I have thought this too--amazing patience on the part of Almighty God. Paul VI prophesied the whole trajectory in Humanae Vitae. Condone contraception and the bricks start tumbling until the whole thing comes down. He was a true prophet. I am glad he is a saint safe in heaven now. What sorrow for him when still on earth.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    God is very merciful.

    But God the Father told Saint Catherine of Sienna, recorded in her Book , 'The Dialogue (with God), that His apparent Mercy can sometimes actually be a condign further punishment. So He actually permits some sinners to fall more and more deeply into sin so that they can be sent to a deeper and deeper part of Hell.

    I would say politicians who support abortion are a wonderful example of this. Nanci Pelosi and Joe Biden being the top, top examples.

    Exorcists tell us that during the Exorcism Ritual the Damned soul of King Herod often appears from the bottom of Hell.

    When King Herod killed the innocent babies in Bethlehem it was probably around 20-30 of them.

    Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, was in a furious rage, and he sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under, according to the time which he had ascertained from the wise men. – Matthew 2:16

    https://aleteia.org/2017/12/28/how-many-holy-innocents-were-killed-by-king-herod/

    Nanci and Joe over their long and infamous careers have enabled the murder of tens of millions of innocents. So if Herod is on the bottom of hell were on Earth will they wind up?

    Matthew 2:18

    A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more.”


    I would say the fact that people like Joe and Nanci are long lived and very wealthy is a huge pointer to the fact that they are going to get totally, totally blitzed at their Judgements.

    2 Peter 3:9

    The Day of the Lord
    …8Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance. 10But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare.…



     
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  10. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    Hence the need for us who perhaps know more than them to pray and make reparation. Jesus suffers also when one he loves is lost.
     
  11. HeavenlyHosts

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    I think we are being called to do that.
     
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  12. DeGaulle

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    Even Peter's notoriously atheistic, late brother Christopher could not support the abortionist cause. Please God, this might be the saving of him.
     
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  13. garabandal

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    I always like to think that the many prayers said for Christopher Hitchens soul may have provided him with enlightenment at the very end.
     
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  14. Muzhik

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    To give you a further idea of how evil Herod was: He knew he was hated by the people. So when he knew he was approaching death, he ordered that the scholars, poets, and learned men in Judea should be gathered into a stadium; and when they recv'd news of his death, the guards were to kill all of them so that at his death there would be mourning in Judea.
     
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  15. padraig

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    I read one time he had the most terrible death. It seems he was struck down in front of large crowd and when taken to his sick bed was eaten alive by worms. Jesus referred to him as, 'That fox' and would not even talk to Him when taken before him.

    He could maybe be the modern ideal for politicians.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

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    Went to confession this afternoon. I haven't seen as many at confession as I saw today for decades...if ever. And young people were the majority. I was consoled, in addition to the sacrament itself.
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

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    Remarkable:):notworthy:
     
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  18. Mario

    Mario Powers

    (y)(y)(y):ROFLMAO:
     
  19. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I think you may be mixing up your tyrants.

    King Herod the Great was king at the time Jesus was born. He was the one who ordered the deaths of all male children under the age of 2. And according to an article in "New Scientist", "... died from a combination of chronic kidney disease and a rare infection that causes gangrene of the genitalia, according to a new analysis of historical records."

    Herod Antipas is the Herod who tried questioning Jesus during His Passion. He fell out of favor with Caligula, was accused of treason, was stripped of his title and property, and sent into exile.
     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I probably was. Although they were both foxes.:)

    A truly, truly abominable, horrible death anyway.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/conditions/01/25/king.herod/

    Mystery of Herod's death 'solved'
    January 25, 2002 Posted: 12:52 PM EST (1752 GMT)



    BALTIMORE, Maryland (CNN) -- A physician has suggested a grisly new theory as to what killed King Herod, of biblical fame.

    It was chronic kidney disease complicated by a severe infection that led to the rotting of his genitals, said Jan Hirschmann, a clinician at a Veterans' Administration hospital and professor of medicine at the University of Washington.

    The condition, known as Fournier's gangrene, was announced Friday after a "historical autopsy" -- an annual event at the Clinico-Pathologic Conference (CPC) organized by the VA and University of Maryland School of Medicine.

    In previous years, the conference has explored the deaths of Edgar Allan Poe, Alexander the Great, Beethoven, General George Custer, Pericles, Mozart and Claudius.

    This year, the conference organizers asked participants to study different texts that describe the death of a mystery figure from history (who turned out to be King Herod), and come up with an explanation of what killed him.

    Herod, King of Judea, also known as Herod the Great, was one of the classic "bad guys" of the Bible. After hearing of the birth of the baby Jesus, called the newborn King of the Jews by the Three Wise Men, Herod tried to kill him off by ordering the so-called "Slaughter of the Innocents," according to the New Testament.

    As told in the Gospel of Matthew, Herod ordered the deaths of all male children two years old and younger in Bethlehem and its surrounding districts.

    Scholars believe Herod died in the year 4 BC. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus recorded details of his death, telling of symptoms that included intense itching, intestinal pain, shortness of breath, convulsions, and gangrene of the genitalia. Hirschmann used these texts to make his diagnosis.

    It was the itching that tipped him off. First, he compiled a list of diseases that cause intense itching. Then, one by one, he checked to see which of the diseases on that list could cause all of the other symptoms, too. In the end, chronic kidney disease emerged as the most likely diagnosis.

    "When I first looked at the general diseases that cause itching, it became clear that most of them couldn't explain a majority of the features of Herod's illness," Hirschmann said. "At first, I considered Hodgkin's disease and some diseases of the liver... . I finally concluded that the most likely explanation was that his chronic kidney disease was complicated by an unusual infection of the male genitalia called Fournier's gangrene."

    The gangrene might have been caused by the kidney disease, or possibly by gonorrhea, or, given the itching symptom, he might have just scratched himself raw and gotten the infection that way.

    Hirschmann said it is unclear how long Herod suffered from kidney disease, but that once the Fournier's gangrene set in, he probably died within days or weeks.

    While it is impossible for anyone to ultimately prove or disprove the new theory, as there are no remains to examine, Hirschmann's study will be submitted at a later date to a medical journal for publication. Previous "historical autopsies" from the CPC have been published in the American Journal of Medicine and the New England Journal of Medicine.
     
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