The warning second coming

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  1. Carfin Grotto

    Carfin Grotto Little me

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    Hi

    I've just joined your forum but thought you might be interested in this website I came across recently or if you know anything about the person behind it? In particular go to "latest messages" & check the most recent ones. http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/
     
  2. Kathleen

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    wow- there is a lot there! I am very interested in reading this. Thanks! And welcome! Kath
     
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    Thanks Carfin, for the link to the web site. I look forward to checking it out.

    Welcome to the forum! Tom
     
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    Carfin Grotto,

    Welcome! The site certainly is well organized. Reminds me of the setup at Fox Network News!

    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
     
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    Just because it is a 'nice site' doesn't mean the messages are true. It is important to discern the messages: there are so many false prophets that this is one of the 'signs of the times'.

    If the messages contradict the Magisterium, Sacred Tradition or Sacred Scriptures they are false
     
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    It is a wonderfully produced web site. Plus it fits in perfectly with contemporary Catholic Prophesy, all of it. On the face of it it appears wonderful and true and insightful.

    But I am afraid I do not believe in it or the visionary behind it.

    Why ? Well on two occasions in the messages Jesus uses two different words to describe his fallen away children. On one occasion He, allegedly calls them ,'Stupid'. He uses another vexed word, I forget which in another place. But it too is a word Jesus would just never use.

    It might sound hard to nix something just over two words. But these two words ..well I just don't go for it. :(

    THe danger sometimes I think is that these things seem just so perfect, I mean I could not disagree with hardly a word written. But if you think I am mistaken go back to this site in six months or a years time and see what is being written then if you still agree with it. THese things tend to start high then sky dive.

    I may be wrong I am not the font of allwisdom, but Jesus would just not use such words.

    One other thing, I think true messages don't tend to read like a newsagency Jesus or Our Lady talks to the heart rather than the head. Someone mentioned FOx News; well yes..a bit too newsy

    But again its just my impression I may be wrong.

    Did anyone reading these messages read anything about fasting or deepening your prayer life? I can't recall anything of this nature. In authentic messages you get these calls over and over, pray, pray, pray; pray the roasry, fast. This isn't here, it reminds me a little of Pedro Regis.
     
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    I have been looking at this site in the past week. I too am not sure but many of the things on it are correct. I have linked on this message and the advice to pray Divine Mercy and to talk to unbelievers about it is very good.
    ttp://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/conversion/

    Nothing about fasting but there is much about prayer. I think take what is good. Time does reveal everything and there are prophesies on this site that should happen soon if they are authentic.

    mary
     
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    Mary, I really like what I'm finding here. Thank you so much for direction to this site.
    Lee


    Hear me now My children. The Anti-Christ is ready to spring. Stay on guard, open your eyes and heart to the truth or you will perish. Fear not My beloved followers for you will lead my flock into the Holy Adoration of My Eternal Father. The food of life will be plentiful to those believers during the dark days ahead. Stay together, love each other. Give each other the strength so that you can unite all races, creeds and believers everywhere towards My Father’s Kingdom.....

    I am the Bread and I am the light. My light will keep you all safe. But I urge you to be generous in heart and soul and think of those poor souls who need guidance. You must do this through example and show these souls how to become closer to Me. They must be coaxed gently, but firmly, along the path. It is important to wake them up from their slumber of ignorance before it is too late.
     
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    I have been reading the recent messages given over Easter and I am getting a positive feeling about this site which seems to be preparing us on how to act after te warning. So many will be desperate for guidance and also we are asked to pledge ourselves to Divine Mercy prayer groups as .those returning will fall away if they are not involved in prayer.

    Mary
     
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    Padraig- I had the same issue with that word "stupid" and agree. It has a element to it that is not consistant with Jesus' message of patience with others.
    Other words were consistant- Pray, pray, pray -but I am going to pass on this one since it actually was so consistant I learned nothing new- so I feel pretty safe not following it. I'm sure you will all keep me up to date on what I need to know. :)

    I'll just keep praying for now. The roller coaster ride is wearing me out. Or maybe its all the tornado's and the incredible loss of life yesterday. No matter what we are living through something, at some point in time and need to pray. Our little local newspaper is warning of the big earthquake coming soon as well. We are being warned all over.

    Pray, pray, pray
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    That "stupid" got my attention as well.
     
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    Our Blessed Lord used some very hard, harsh, get their attention words with others such as 'blind' and whited tombs'.

    However Jesus was referringto the blocking of the Holy Spirit in their lives. He was trying to give them a wake up call, as did, say Padre Pio when, from time to time, he reached across the confessional to give the occasional, well earned smack in the face to those who needed it. :D :D :lol:


    However the word, 'Stupid' is a human word....it refers to a low intelligence....this has nothing at all to do with the Holy Spirit...now whethr a person is good or bad has nothing to do with intelligence or learning..in fact some of the greatest saints such as Padre Pio, the Cure of Ars and Martin De Porres could very well have been classified as ,'Stupid' in a human sense...

    So to call someone 'Stupid' is not spiritual because it simply has no relevance to the Holy Spirit...I hope I expain myself...Jesus could not ciriticise anyone for being 'stupid' because a persons IQ is irrelevant to God...IT IS|SOMETHING HE SIMPLY COULD NOT SAY........the only thing that is relevent to God is how much we love, how much we respond to the Holy Spirit...being 'stupid' is no more important to God than how big our toes our, or how important we are or how handsome or beautiful we are..God looks to the heart to the presence or not of the Holy Spirit within....to Him calling someone , 'Stupid' would be merely insulting and ...meaniingless..

    to put it more simply, this is not the language of heaven
     
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    I can't find the word "stupid". Where is it?
    There is a lot about prayer, especially about the Divine Mercy Chaplet. Asking us to form prayer groups, explaining how important prayer for mercy is now and will be after the Warning. To pray for those we know are close to death, to pray for our families and leaders.

    I thought talk of confession and fasting was missing, but then I found it in this passage from Jan. 24:
    "Regular confession is a sacrament much misunderstood. It is only by weekly attendance in the confessional that your soul can remain in a state of grace. When your soul is sanctified in this manner and through daily prayer only then can you can keep the Deceiver at bay."

    Later in the same post:
    "Remember children that because of original sin you will always fall victim to the temptation of The Evil One. It is through prayer, fasting and dedication to the Holy Eucharist that you will become closer to Me. This does require time which must be set aside."

    So far though, this is the only post I have read where Fasting and Confession are mentioned.

    This is in the Feb. 17 post:
    "My daughter go spread the word quickly. You have only weeks. Use every tool available to you. Show courage. Do absolutely everything to allow all of My children, all nations to understand the meaning of My special gift – when My hand reaches out from Heaven to save their souls."
    "...This is a turning point in the history of mankind children. You will understand this very shortly. By then any skeptical thoughts you have at time of the Warning – when it happens you will open your hearts to the truth."

    This is the big, final post before she published her e-book, it seems - too much to copy but here's the link:
    http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/last-message-for-the-volume-the-warning/
     
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    'Their stupid allegiance to The Deceiver means that, through the Satanic powers they receive under his influence, they are determined to carry out this task at all costs...............

    cf:

    http://www.courlisius.org/en/plan-to-deplete-world-population
     
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    'Never tell those of different creeds or sexual preferences they are doomed. To push My teachings in a manner where you tell those who are not followers that they will perish or come to harm by brandishing their ways as ‘evil’ will simply render them weaker than before. Many will simply turn their backs on you. Then you will have failed. Instead of lecturing, show compassion. Teach through example. Never tell or attempt to say to these people that they are doomed in My eyes. Because they are not.
    I love every single soul of all religions. Of all persuasions. Of all creeds. Of all sexual preferences'.

    I quote this verse from the site for this is clearly of human and not divine origin. 'Sexual preferences' - this is utter nonsense - I have never seen this phrase in the Bible or the Catechism - the Church always refers to the 'marital act' within marriage. Male and female He created them. Simple. God cannot contradict what He created.
     
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    Thanks Bobby,

    This was the second example of a problem I had noticed on this site but a far, far more striking one. Bobby himself has pointed out the difficulties with this, but I may remind you

    THIS IS, SUPPOSEDLY FROM THE MOUTH OF JESUS HIMSELF, TO THE VISiONARY, AND DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH.

    from the Catholic Catechism;

    2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

    Whereas 'Jesus' of the visions in speaking of 'sexual preferences ' implies no 'grave depravity' just a choice. A kind of Catholic Oprah Winrey with a direct plug in to God.

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    Oh rats, I was really hoping this was the real deal!
     
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    Stan got us again. :( Thanks for everyone persisting through this. Its so important that we do look at things carefully. I feel much comfort by the process. It can be very confusing to discern by oneself. God helped me figure this stuff out by sending me to you. Kath
     
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    Not that I am saying this site is the real deal or anything, I'm not, I have no idea, but I completely disagree with the intrepretation being made here about the homesexual part. I read this message too, three or four times when I saw it, trying to decide what it was really saying. I also was surprised by the phrase "sexual preferences" supposedly used by Jesus, but I thought it was ingenious! It is NOT in any way saying that they have a right to choose this "preference" or that "preference". What the message is saying is that we should not frighten them away, or call them evil, or make them feel as if there is no redemption available for them. It is saying to offer compassion, to heep trying to help them, to teach by example, and to not give up on these people. I thought this was very good, actually. I think it is EXACTLY how a good Christian should react to any sinner of any kind, be it a lier, a thief, a homosexual, or a girl who has had an abortion. I really don't get the Oprah comparison at all.

    Also, I have read somewhere that sometimes Jesus or Mary uses language that the visionary can more easily understand, or more common to our own culture, to make the message clearer to them. Perhaps that is wrong, perhaps that is actually a sign of a false message, but to say this is not admissible because it is not in the Bible is also an odd comment. There are a LOT of words used in many messages that are not in the Bible. Also, the phrase used is general and therefore covers way more than just homosexuality, it covers all people doing all wrong sexual practices...

    One more thing, the use of "preference" over "orientation" is very important. The fact that the word "preference" is used in this message would greatly anger homesexuals. They refuse to acknowledge their lifestyle as a preference. Using this word is actually, I thought, more in line with what the Church teaches, that it is a wrong choice these people are making, and they can choose otherwise, that it is not "hard-wired" as the homosexuals will argue - an "orientation" as they prefer to say. It is a thief's"preference" (or choice) to live a life of crime...it is an unmarried couple's "preference" to sleep together out of wedlock. It is the sexual preference (or choice) that is wrong...the person is still a child of God, and can still receive his Divine Mercy.
     
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    Well one good thing Connie, she gives a very precise prophesy that three world leaders will be assasinated shortly one after the other. So if that happens..

    I wonder who she is? I think they say she is a European, if you are reading this forum please email or pm me I would love to hear from you.
     
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