Amazon Synod Working Document Released Today, and It Confirms There’s Trouble on the Horizon

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Amazon Synod Working Document Released Today, and It Confirms There’s Trouble on the Horizon
Steve Skojec June 17, 2019 0 Comments
The “Instrumentum Laboris” (working document) for the upcoming Amazon Synod was released today. Currently available only in Italian and Spanish, the 45,000-word document — as expected — contains indications that like the two family synods that came before it, this October’s synod on issues facing the Church in the Amazon river basin will not remain local in its focus, but instead bring troubling developments to the entire Catholic Church.

From Diane Montagna at LifeSiteNews:


The 64-page document, which will form the basis of discussion at the upcoming Synod, suggests that local bishops’ conferences “adapt the Eucharistic rite to their cultures,” that the Church consider ordaining married “elders” to the priesthood, and that Synod fathers identify the “official ministry that can be conferred on women,” given their prominent role in Amazonian culture.

The document also suggests that it’s time to reconsider “the notion that the exercise of jurisdiction (power of government) must be linked in all areas (sacramental, judicial, administrative) and in a permanent way to the Sacrament of Holy Orders.”

The document focuses heavily on ecological issues, liturgical “inculturation,” community organizing, and ecumenism/inter-religious dialogue.

In one section (p. 39), we are treated to what appears to be a furtherance of the religious indifferentism that caused so much concern in the Abu Dhabi statement. It reads, in part*:

An insincere stance of openness to the other, as well as a corporatist attitude, which reserves salvation exclusively to one’s own creed, is destructive of the same creed. In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus explained this to the inquiring lawyer. Love lived in any religion pleases God. “Through an exchange of gifts, the Spirit can lead us ever more fully into truth and goodness.” EG 246

It is not a stretch to re-imagine the operative sentence in the preceding paragraph as “Love lived in any relationship pleases God,” particularly as Christians around the world weather another barrage of LGBT messaging during so-called “Pride month” — during which Catholics in Genoa, Italy have been forbidden by Cardinal Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco from using the parishes of the diocese to offer public reparation for offenses committed in the name of “gay pride.”

To return to the synod document itself, the section on inculturation encourages marriage and “Christian initiation liturgies” to be “festive, with their own music and dances, using indigenous languages and clothing, in communion with nature and with the community.” It also asks for bishops’ conferences to “adapt the Eucharistic rite to their cultures,” and further:

Communities find it difficult to celebrate the Eucharist frequently because of the lack of priests. “The Church draws her life from the Eucharist” and the Eucharist builds the Church. Therefore, instead of leaving the communities without the Eucharist, change is requested in the criteria for selecting and preparing ministers authorized to celebrate the Eucharist.

Paragraph 129 of the document says:

Stating that celibacy is a gift for the Church, we ask that, for more remote areas in the region, study of the possibility of priestly ordination of elders, preferably indigenous … they can already have an established and stable family, in order to ensure the sacraments that they accompany and support the Christian life[.]

It has long been anticipated that addressing the insufficiency of priests in the region would lead to the relaxation of clerical celibacy around the world. As Bishop Schneider said last year, to grant such permission in the Amazon would mean that “celibacy would de facto be abolished” in the global Church.

German cardinal Walter Kasper, a close friend and adviser to Pope Francis, said in an interview earlier this month that “if the bishops agreed through mutual consent to ordained married men — those called viri probati — it’s my judgement that the pope would accept it.”

“Celibacy isn’t a dogma,” Kasper continued. “It’s not an unalterable practice.”

Last year, German bishops’ conference vice president Franz-Josef Bode announced that the German bishops will ask the pope for special permission to ordain “viri probati” if the pope allows permission to the Church in the Amazon region.

Paragraph 129 also says it is suggested that the bishops “identify the type of official ministry that can be conferred on women, considering the central role they play today in the Amazon Church.”

It is unclear what role, exactly, is anticipated in this section, considering that the pope appeared to shoot down hopes of ordained female deacons after the commission he appointed several years ago was unable to conclude that any such office had ever existed in the Church.

“[F]undamentally,” the pope said during an in-flight press conference in May 2019, “there is no certainty that [the ordination of women] was an ordination with the same form, in the same purpose as male ordination. Some say there is doubt, let’s go ahead and study. I am not afraid of studying, but up to this moment it does not proceed.”

* Translation of this section by Jesús Flórez.

 

Ugh!

 

This is what he had planned when he said he could be the Pope who split the Church. It's a blueprint for schism.

 

From the Catholic World Report's coverage: https://www.catholicworldreport.com...-consider-possible-ordination-of-married-men/

I agree with the person who pointed out that the introduction of married priests be a diversion to draw attention away from some innovation which this Synod has been chosen to introduce just as the Youth Synod was used to introduce the Pope Francis version of synodality. That person guessed that open communion would be the innovation but we already have de facto open Communion courtesy of Pope Francis. I suspect that there will be a new female ministry introduced - not deacon or priest but carrying the equal authority with a priest and perhaps a bishop or cardinal.

Reading this, it also looks like Pope Francis is paving the way for a further change to the Our Father some time in the future:

It is necessary to grasp what the Spirit of the Lord has taught to these peoples over the centuries: faith in God the Father-Mother Creator, the sense of communion and harmony with the earth, the sense of solidarity with one’s companions … the living relationship with nature and ‘Mother Earth,’ the resilience of women,” paragraph 121 of the document states.
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The rest of it is the type of pagan mumbo jumbo we have become accustomed to under the Francis papacy, "the Amazonion cosmovision" being an example.

 

Very ominous.

 

If it were only this papacy it would be one thing but it is clearly not. What has happened at Assisi (Truly sad that this great Saints memory has been sullied in this way) repeatedly over the years was apparently just a foreshadowing of the future Francis. There are some real gems in that article. I would love to read this "working document" for myself but conveniently it has only been released in Spanish and Italian for the pundits to transcribe and feed to us a bite at a time with their spin on things attached.

The language of the modernist reminds me of the speech of Grima Wormtongue from the Lord of the Rings who spun webs of spells over his king with which to keep him in bondage to evil.

An insincere stance of openness to the other, as well as a corporatist attitude, which reserves salvation exclusively to one’s own creed, is destructive of the same creed. In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus explained this to the inquiring lawyer. Love lived in any religion pleases God. “Through an exchange of gifts, the Spirit can lead us ever more fully into truth and goodness.” EG 246

The document stresses the importance of inculturation of indigenous cultures in the Catholic faith and the liturgy in the region, starting with engagement with indigenous spiritualities.

Recommending that the Church “recognize indigenous spirituality as a source of wealth for the Christian experience,” and the document calls for dialogue with “the Amazonian cosmovision” to be included in formation for religious life.

“Recognition and dialogue will be the best way to transform the ancient relations marked by exclusion and discrimination,” paragraph 35 states. In several places, the document refers to “the wounds caused during long periods of colonization.”

“For this Pope Francis asked ‘humbly for forgiveness, not only for the offenses of his own Church, but for crimes against indigenous peoples during the conquest of so-called America.’ In this past, the Church has sometimes been complicit in the colonization and this has stifled the prophetic voice of the Gospel,” paragraph 38 states.

Sounds like a load more naturalistic pantheism to me. The proof is in the pudding as they say. The fruits of the modernists push of ecumenicism are readily abundant in how they smooth the way and remove any hard teachings and instead place them on the neck of the "rigid" Catholic faithful.

 

Ask forgiveness for turning savages into Christians lol

 

Amazon Synod Working Document Criticized for Serving ‘Neo-Pagan Agenda’

Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri
https://edwardpentin.co.uk/amazon-synod-working-document-criticized-for-serving-neo-pagan-agenda/

The working document for the upcoming synod of bishops on the Amazon region represents a “total opening of the gates of the Magisterium to Indian theology and eco-theology” which includes “clearly pagan” and “pantheistic elements of belief,” a Chilean author has said.

José Antonio Ureta of the Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira Institute, part of the Tradition, Family and Property movement founded the eponymous Catholic thinker, said the new document opens the Church up to these two theologies which are “two Latin American derivatives of liberation theology.”

Like liberation theology, he added, the working document’s starting point is not Christian Revelation but rather the “supposed ‘oppression’ in the Amazon region, making it a “privileged interlocutor” and a “source of God’s revelation” — quotes from the working document itself.

He noted that the document, called an instrumental laboris which forms the basis for the discussions at the Oct. 6-27 synod, exalts Indian theology to such an extent that it limits the Church to “dialoguing” with the indigenous people rather than seeking their conversion, and calls on the Church to “enrich herself with clearly pagan and / or pantheistic elements of belief.”

“Not even witchcraft is sidelined in this enrichment,” Ureta added, partly because it states that “indigenous rituals and ceremonies are essential for integral health.”

But he believes a “real earthquake” is the document’s paragraph no. 127 where it states:

“…it would be opportune to reconsider the notion that the exercise of jurisdiction (power of government) must be connected in all areas (sacramental, judicial, administrative) and in a permanent way to the Sacrament of Holy Orders.”

Ureta said the passage calls into question a structure of the Church, between clergy and laity, which has been affirmed since the First Council of Nicaea, obscuring the “essential difference” between the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood of clerics.

“The latter is rooted in the apostolic succession and endowed with a sacred power,” he reaffirmed.

This “dilution” of the Catholic priesthood, he continued, naturally leads to a reconsideration of priestly celibacy (the document invites a study of ordaining elders with families), and “even worse,” he said, a passage in the document calling for an “official ministry” for women.

Ureta added that “from an ecological point of view,” the instrumentum laboris shows an acceptance for the “deification of nature” promoted in UN conferences on the environment since at least 1972.

“This neo-pagan UN agenda is now proposed by a Synodal Assembly of the Catholic Church,” Ureta said.

He went on to say that the working document is also “an apology” for the “worst kind” of communism, “disguised as communitarianism,” and in the form of “collectivism of small communities.”

And he added that the indigenous philosophy of “good living” (sumak kawsay), which figures highly in the working document, assumes an “intercommunication between the whole cosmos, in which no one excludes or is excluded” and proposes a communitarian lifestyle where “feeling, thinking and acting” are the same.

Ureta concluded by saying that it is a reminder of Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira’s denunciation of indigenous tribalism as a “new and even more radical stage of the Anarchist Revolution,” one which ends up “devouring freedom” as independent thought, will and ways of being are “merged” into the “collective personality of the tribe.”

“The instrumentum laboris is nothing short of an invitation for humanity to take a fatal step towards the final abyss of the anti-Christian Revolution,” Ureta warned.

Antiquated and Inchoate Assumptions

Further criticism of the document came from Margaret Petito, president of non-profit Friends of Rule of Law in Ecuador, Inc., who told the Register the document is “based on antiquated, inchoate political assumptions” and, in a “dysfunctional” way, “lacks observable, verifiable real time facts about the large region of the world it portends to assist.”

She added that “however well-intentioned the instrumentum laboris may appear, its substance precludes actual Christian practice in Latin America, now noticeably in crisis.” The document, she believes, “does nothing” to address the “real crises” in the region.

At yesterday’s press conference, veteran Italian Vaticanista Sandro Magister asked why the document speaks both positively and negatively of Pentecostalism, but only positively about the indigenous religions. He noted that it makes no mention of cannibalism or infanticide practiced by some tribes.

Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, general secretary of the Synod of Bishops, responded by stressing the positive “values” of the traditional religions, adding that preaching the Gospel to the indigenous tribes “purifies” them.

Petito believes it is “utter balderdash” to portray the pre-colonial peoples of the region as “happy-clappy” people “in harmony with nature.” She added that the Incas, the Latin American Indians living in the region before the Spanish conquest and from which Indian theology is derived, “ruled with a fierce, cruel Stalinesque totality from Venezuela through Chile.”

“Death was the Incan primary god and all existed as slaves to serve the central state,” Petito explained.

Asked if, as Ureta and others believe, the synod is potentially a “platform” to launch a “new syncretic Church” which mixes Christianity with the pagan religion of the region’s indigenous people, Cardinal Baldiserri told reporters on Monday he did not see “elements” in the working document that would “suppose the existence of syncretism.”

He said it “expresses the Church’s true doctrine” in the Amazonian “context” while “opening avenues for a more incisive evangelization.”

The cardinal also told reporters there are “many versions” of liberation theology, not all of which are negative, and that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger produced two documents examining the theology. In any case, he said, the instrumentum laborisis just a “preliminary” document for the synod.

The assembly of bishops promises to show the “image of a Church with an Amazonian face,” Cardinal Baldisseri said, “courageous in its prophetic proclamation of the Gospel in defence of Creation and of indigenous peoples.”

This is the “horizon towards which we walk under Pope Francis’ guidance,” he said, “to share an experience of fraternal communion, collegiality and synodality.”

Continued...

 

Continued from above...

Here below is José Antonio Ureta’s full statement:

The Church at the Service of the Neo-Pagan Agenda

The Instrumentum laboris of the coming Extraordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, made public this morning, represents a total opening of the gates of the Magisterium to Indian Theology and Ecotheology, two Latin American derivatives of Liberation Theology. After the collapse of the USSR and the failure of “real socialism”, the advocates of Liberation Theology (LT), on the Marxist style, attributed the historic role of revolutionary force to indigenous peoples and to nature.

Like LT, the Instrumentum laboris does not take the Revelation of God contained in the Bible and in Tradition as the basis for its ruminations, but rather the supposed “oppression” to which the Amazon is said to be subject. Thus, from a simple geographical and cultural area, the Amazon becomes a “privileged interlocutor,” a “theological place,” “an epiphanic place,” and a “source of God’s revelation: (n° 2, 18 and 19).

From a theological point of view, the Instrumentum laboris not only recommends the teaching of Indian Theology “in all educational institutions” for “a better and greater understanding of indigenous spirituality” and to “take into consideration myths, traditions, symbols, knowledge, rites and original celebrations” (n ° 98). It also repeats all its postulates throughout the document. That is to say, the “seeds of the Word” are present not only in the aboriginal people’s ancestral beliefs, but they have “grown and given fruit” (n° 120) so that the Church, instead of her traditional evangelization that seeks conversion, must limit herself to “dialoguing” with Indians as “the active subject of inculturation are the indigenous peoples themselves” (No. 122).

In this intercultural dialogue, the Church must also enrich herself with clearly pagan and / or pantheistic elements of beliefs such as “faith in God the Father-Mother Creator,” “relations with ancestors,” “communion and harmony with the earth” (n ° 121) and connection with “the various spiritual forces” (n ° 13). Not even witchcraft is sidelined by this “enrichment”. According to the document, “The richness of the flora and fauna of the forest contains real ‘living pharmacopoeias’ and unexplored genetic principles” (No. 86). In this context, “Indigenous rituals and ceremonies are essential for integral health because they integrate the different cycles of human life and nature. They create harmony and balance between human beings and the cosmos. They protect life from the evils that can be caused by both humans and other living beings. They help to cure diseases that damage the environment, human life and other living beings” (No. 87).

On the ecclesiological level, the Instrumentum laboris is a real earthquake that undermines the hierarchical structure that the Church has by Divine mandate. In the name of “incarnation” in the Amazon culture, the document invites us to reconsider “the idea that the exercise of jurisdiction (power of government) must be connected in all areas (sacramental, judicial, administrative) and permanently to the Sacrament of Order” (No. 127). It is inconceivable for the Synod’s working document to call into question a doctrine of Faith as is the distinction, in the structure of the Church, between clergy and laity, which has been affirmed since the First Council of Nicaea and is based on the essential difference between the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood of clerics. The latter is rooted in the apostolic succession and endowed with a sacred power.

Along with this dilution of the Catholic priesthood, which becomes somewhat similar to that of a Protestant pastor, comes a call to reconsider the obligatory nature of celibacy and, even worse, to identify what kind of “official ministry” can be conferred on women (§ 3 ). Cardinal Joseph-Albert Malula, from Zaire, and Most Rev. Samuel Ruiz, of the Diocese of Chiapas, will have turned in their graves upon seeing that the projects they tried to achieve (which the Vatican quickly rejected) are now proposed by a Synod, which according to its organizers, has a certain universal dimension.

From an ecological point of view, the Instrumentum laboris represents the Church’s acceptance of the deification of nature promoted by the UN conferences on the environment.

In fact, official UN documents, already in 1972, claimed that man has mismanaged natural resources mainly due to “a certain philosophical conception of the world.” While “pantheistic theories … attributed part of the divinity to living beings … scientific discoveries led to … a kind of desacralization of natural beings,” the best justification of which is reaffirmed “in the Judeo-Christian conceptions according to which God created man in his image and gave him the earth to subdue.” Conversely, the UN said, practicing the cult of ancestors “constituted a bulwark for the environment, since trees or water courses were protected and revered as a reincarnation of ancestors” (Aspects éducatifs, sociaux et culturels des problèmes de l’environnement et questions de l’information, UN General Assembly, Stockholm, June 5-6 1972, A/CONF.48.9, p. 8 & 9).

In the closing speech of Rio 92 in Rio de Janeiro, the then-UN Secretary General, Boutros Boutros-Ghali declared that “for the ancients, the Nile was a god that was worshiped, as was the Rhine, an infinite source of European myths, or the Amazon rainforest, mother of all forests. Everywhere, nature was the home of gods. They gave the forest, the desert, the mountain, a personality that imposed adoration and respect. The Earth had a soul. Finding it, resurrecting it: this is the essence [of the Intergovernmental Conference] in Rio.” (A / CONF.151 / 26, vol. IV, p. 76).

And this neo-pagan UN agenda is now proposed by a Synodal Assembly of the Catholic Church!

Citing a document from Bolivia, the Instrumentum laboris states that, “the forest is not a resource to be exploited, it is a being or more beings with which to relate” (n ° 23); it continues by stating that “The life of the Amazon communities still unaffected by the influence of Western civilization [sic], is reflected in the beliefs and rituals regarding the action of spirits, of the divinity – called in so many names – with and in the territory, with and in relation to nature. This cosmovision is summarized in the “mantra” of Francis: ‘everything is connected’” (n ° 25).

From the socio-economic point of view, the Instrumentum laboris is an apology of communism, disguised as “communitarianism”. Moreover, it is the worst form of communism: the collectivism of small communities. In fact, according to the document the aborigines’ project of “good living” (sumak kawsay) assumes that “there is an intercommunication between the whole cosmos, in which no one excludes or is excluded.” The explanatory note on the indigenous word refers to a declaration by various indigenous entities, titled “The Cry of the Sumak Kawsay in Amazonia,” which states that the word “is an oldest and newest Word” (with a capital W in the text; that is, a Divine Revelation) which proposes “a communitarian lifestyle with one and the same FEELING, THINKING AND ACTING” (capital letters also from the original).

This phrase reminds us of Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira’s denunciation, in 1976, that indigenous tribalism was a new and even more radical stage of the Anarchist Revolution: “Structuralists see tribal life as an illusory synthesis between the apex of individual freedom and consensual collectivism, in which the latter ends up devouring freedom. According to structuralism, in this collectivism the various ‘I’s and individual persons, with their thought, will, sensibility and ways of being, characteristic and discrepant, are merged and dissolved in the collective personality of the tribe, which generates an intensely common thinking, will, and way of being.”

The Instrumentum laboris is nothing short of an invitation for humanity to take a fatal step towards the final abyss of the anti-Christian Revolution.

Translated from the Spanish by James Bascom

 

Pope Francis couldn't give a fiddler's about the Amazonian tribes. This is about implementing the St. Gallen agenda. The promise of German money will buy the approval of South American Bishops. They're getting the introduction of married priests and some kind of new sacrament for female minsters. They're also getting changes in liturgy including everything from liturgical vestments to whatever innovations will make the liturgy more appealing to the locals. There's not a chance that it won't spread from the Amazon region to the rest of the universal Church. Some part-time tribal priest cum chief doing his tribal dance at Mass dressed in his tribal outfit, carrying his tribal spear and chanting his tribal songs to appease the great fire mountain will be the launch pad for transvestite Fr. Franz in Berlin sashaying up to the altar in his slinky dress and stiletto heels to co-celebrate (they won't call it con-celebrate) Mass with Fraulein Heidi the new female Minister; the Chinese Communists having Chairman Mao's motivational slogans included in the Mass, and Thomas Merton devotees celebrating Zen centering Masses. And don't think for a minute that the Jesuits aren't already working out a scheulde for Teilhard's earth Mass.

Our current hierarchy are men in a hurry. Remember what then-Cardinal McCarrick said about Francis transforming the Catholic Church in five or six years.

For all that Michael Voris is demonised, he has the most interesting guests on his programmes. He did an interview with Fr. Sullins who issued a report about the relationship between the abuse crisis and the number of homosexual clerics in seminaries in the 1980's. He compares the crisis in the Church with the Israelites wandering the desert on the way to the promised land. It took them 40 years to cover a short distance. Fr. Sullins says that the percentage of homosexuals in older priests (including Bishops) is far higher than younger priests. He sees it as a kind of purification of the Church/priesthood and believes that we're approaching the end of the 40 years' journey. I think that Fr. Sullins must have missed McCarrick's glee at the prospect of Pope Francis transforming the Church within a few years.

Is this what a purified Church/priesthood looks like?

 

There is no question they are in a hurry. As if the enemy knows God has put a deadline down." This far and no farther."
The 40 years in the desert is a perfect analogy.

 

II thought the same thing, the liberal group that elected Francisco is in a hurry to see part of the reforms implemented, since by the end of this year he will be 83 years old and could be the last opportunity to put into practice the measures they want. I wonder if in a possible schism due to changes in the priesthood, many will leave the Church, thinking that it is following the path of Lutheranism and Anglicanism

 

And now this:

Bishop Erwin Kräutler of Xingu, Brazil. GLOBART / YouTube


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June 19, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Bishop Erwin Kräutler, primary author of the June 17, 2019 instrumentum laboris (working document) for the upcoming October 2019 Amazon Synod, is a strong supporter of the ordination of married men and women to the priesthood.

As The Tablet writes: “Bishop Erwin Kräutler, a proponent of married and female priests, is the author of the working document for the upcoming Synod.” While the bishop may have had other collaborators, Pope Francis himself entrusted Kräutler with this overall task.

In June of 2018, LifeSiteNews reported on a 2016 book written by Bishop Kräutler, in which he argues in favor of female priests. The title of this book is Be Courageous! After pointing out that in the Amazon region, there are many women who are already leading the Liturgy of the Word (in the Novus Ordo) on Sunday, the Austrian bishop proposes here that they could also be prepared “so that they could preside over the Eucharist for their parish. For their parish! This limitation seems to me important.”

For Kräutler, Pope John Paul II’s 1994 document Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, which definitively reiterated the impossibility of female ordination, “is not a doctrine de fide.” He even states that Pope Francis — with whom Kräutler had discussed the ideas of Bishop Fritz Lobinger concerning the ordination in the West of married priests — would be open to such an idea. The bishop explains, “Nevertheless, I do not believe that he would say a strict ‘no’ to the ordination of women.”

Kräutler further explains in his 2016 book that since Pope John Paul II’s statement on the question of female priests “is very determined,” Pope Francis “will not do anything alone concerning the question of priesthood, celibacy and female ordination, but, if so, then it will be together with the bishops.” Any decision in that regard “certainly” should not be “immediately implemented world-wide,” but only regionally at first.

“Certain convictions and interpretations, which once were presented with vehemence, and even defended as being unchangeable,” the prelate adds, “have often, nevertheless, completely changed during the course of history.” He refers for example to Vatican II's text Dignitatis Humanae, “which did away for good with” the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, especially with regard to religious liberty.

Thus, it is worthwhile to study the positions of this bishop to whom Pope Francis has entrusted so much and whom he asked in 2014 to make “courageous proposals.” At that same audience, Pope Francis discussed with the Austrian bishop — who was appointed Bishop of Xingu, Brazil in 1981 and retired in 2015 — the work of Bishop Fritz Lobinger, who, together with the pastoral theologian Paul Zulehner, proposes to ordain married male and female priests. Zulehner explains their model in a recently published article in the German journal Herder Korrepondenz.

These new part-time priests, Zulehner and Lobinger explain, would have families and their own professions, while volunteering as priests in their local communities, together with several other “team members.” A celibate priest would then be “responsible” for several such teams. The formation of this new type of priest, explains Zulehner, would be assured with the help of a three-year-long course, possibly connected with a local university. Lobinger and Zulehner call these priests “priests of a different kind,” and they speak not of “viri probati,” but rather of “personae probatae,” since this expression “keeps the possibility open whether the parishes cannot also choose women as personae probatae.”

Bishop Kräutler’s and Bishop Lobinger’s names thus indicate that Pope Francis, by giving both of them prominence, might truly be open to some sort of female ordination. Only recently, on May 10, the pope pointed out that the discussion on the female diaconate is still open, referring to changes in the Church:

This is true, but the Church develops on her journey in fidelity to Revelation. We cannot change Revelation. It’s true the Revelation develops. The word is “development” — it develops with time. And we with time understand the faith better and better. The way to understand the faith today, after Vatican II, is different from the way of understanding the faith before Vatican II. Why? Because there is a development of knowledge. You are right. And this isn’t something new, because the very nature — the very nature — of Revelation is in continual movement to clarify itself.

 

Let us return to Bishop Kräutler to understand the spirit of the new working document of the upcoming Amazon Synod, which he has helped to prepare.

In a 1992 book entitled My Life Is like the Amazon River (“Mein Leben ist wie der Amazonas”), the prelate explains with regard to the native Indian tribes that “we will respect their culture, learn their language, and be at their side when they defend their rights” (p. 64). He does not mention that he wishes to convert them to the Catholic faith. According to a report in the German newspaper Die Zeit, for Kräutler, the mission among the Indians “does not mean conversion.”

Father Franz Helm, an Austrian missionary priest, recently quoted Bishop Kräutler as saying: “I have not yet baptized an Indian, and I also will not do it.” (LifeSiteNews reached out to Bishop Kräutler asking him to verify this quote.) Helm added in remarks to LifeSiteNews that, in the 1990s, when he was the general secretary of Missio Austria (a pontifical missionary work), this quote “was transmitted to me.” He also explained that as long as “Christianity is not inculturated” in the Amazon region, “an Indian can hardly be also a Christian at the same time. Because, in order to become a Christian, an Indian has to give up his Indian being.” As examples, he pointed to the Roman Liturgy along with social forms and offices that are not sufficiently adapted to the Indian culture.

An Austrian source, a journalist, confirmed to LifeSiteNews that the above-mentioned quote from Bishop Kräutler is well known and has never been denied by the bishop, even though it has been repeatedly mentioned in the media.

In a 2000 report, Bishop Kräutler, was quoted in a talk as saying: “We wish for a Christianity and a Church that also have indigenous traits. No longer is the fastest possible formal conversion to Christianity by baptism at the center of the Church’s work for the Indians, but an inculturation that asks which traces God also left in the natural religions.”

About the problem of infanticide among the native tribes in the Amazon region, Bishop Kräutler wrote a statement in 2009, in which he admits that “among some few tribes of the Brazilian Indios, there still exists the cultural institution of infanticide.” He even recalls one specific incident where an Indian woman buried her baby alive, saying she gave her daughter “back to the Earth” because she could not handle twins at the same time. “That is to say,” Kräutler explains, “it was the custom, in case of the birth of twins, to entrust [sic] to the earth one of the children.” Thankfully, this buried baby girl was then rescued.

Kräutler explicitly rejects the idea that the state could prosecute those who commit such crimes. He is, rather, in favor of “convincing the people, with pastoral patience, that the culturally prescribed death of a child is anachronistic and undercuts their own strategy of life.”

“We have always fought for the physical and cultural survival of the Indians,” he continues, “and we do so on the foundation of the Gospels, and not with help of the gospel of fundamentalism.” Thus, he rejects ideas of penalizing infanticide, because “here, in the name of human rights and under the pretext of suppressing infanticide, a broad ethnocide, a cultural murder, is being installed.”

 

Just when we think it couldn't get more bizarre, up comes a bishop boasting about not having baptised a single Indian.

Could the sedevacantists have been right all along? Otherwise how could all these weirdos be bishops? After this Amazon Synod, we could see the first ordained shaman - a witch doctor on weekdays and a priest on Sundays. The way things are now, shaman cardinals could be an improvement. That they believe in any kind of God probably makes them a good deal more religious than our shepherds. Here's the papal posse discussing the Synod and other controversial topics. I get the impression that Robert Royal thinks we have entered the Twilight Zone:

 

I am finding it increasingly hard to say anything on these ongoing subjects of the Church. Ordained women, married priests (which I understand is not dogma but tradition), change in substance of the Eucharist, not converting the indigenous, etc, etc, etc. I feel like I am just hanging on to the jagged rocks as I free fall through this time period. I don't know what to say. I can't defend any of this because it is just bizare and not Catholic. It feels pagan. It feels like we are moving backwards to before Christ was born and most of the world was pagan. It's hard.

I find myself just wanting to pray more as it seems that is my best weapon now. I don't know what to say. It's nuts. The world and what is happening is insanity. Am I crazy for not believing in any of this namby pamby changes the Church is discussing? It causes me to doubt if I am being charitable. I am doubting but not. I know my faith and this stuff is crazy.

Sigh. Just going to spend more time the rest of this year praying and at adoration.

 

All male priesthood is established church doctrine which can never be changed. Pope JPII made that crystal clear in his encyclical. The one thing that everyone needs to know is the words of the consecration can never change and when they do, know it is the works of the Antichrist.

 

Tanker I totally agree. This is exactly where I am at. I had best keep away from it and find that desert space in my heart and run there even if I cant physically run as St Anthony of Egyot did. Bottom line: God is permitting this. The wheat and chaff are being sifted. It will not be allowed to stand. Best thing to do is pray and strive for holiness. (So much harder than keeping up with the latest scandals)

 

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