A Storm is Coming

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    So it seems we need to take a step back and ask ourselves, where are we at now in the storm? Are we already weary with the winds of dissent around us? Some feel dissent is from from those not following the lead of the Pope on divorce and remarriage, while other feel the dissent is in following the Holy Father. The question to me is no longer where the storm is coming from, but how fast is it coming to within the eye of the storm when the strongest of the winds of apostasy takes place and there is few if anyone around you that remains faithful. It is that moment that Pope Benedict (Father Ratzinger) prophecised over 30 years ago, when "the Church will become very small, but very holy", the remnant Church. In saying this, one has to ask yourself on the area of divorce and remarriage; who will be the small group and who will be the large group? The world is surely applauding Pope Francis new document that many Cardinals, Bishops and Priest are in favor of. Many have been doing what Pope Francis suggested in AL for years now. So it seems a certain that the 'new way' is going to be very popular indeed and will not be the "remnant" church that the prophetic consensus speaks of. So, I sense the eye of the storm is coming at great speed now. Everyone will soon have to choose what and who you want to stand with. Brace yourself, cause once your in the eye of the storm there will be no time to deliberate your choice. It will come like a "thief in the night" some great person once said.
     
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    I hate to say this because I hate talking about schism, but we are seeing it already on the forum.
    This must be ended.
    Catholics need to all believe the same thing.
    That is what makes us "Catholic".

    Two years ago if you asked anyone (almost anyone) on the forum if Holy Communion should be given to adulterers who refused to stop having sex and yet wanted absolution and access to The Holy Eucharist you would have gotten a resounding "No".

    Sadly, this is not the case today.
    This is not an indictment of anyone on either side of the issue.
    I think everyone on this forum is doing their best to be loyal to the Church, the Truth and Christ.
    The problem is that this is impossible if we do not all believe the same things like we used to.

    And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
    -Mark 3:25

    If this isn't rectified the Church will split.
    We are already seeing it here.
    :cry::cry::cry:
     
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    Yes, the need for each of us to make an irrevocable DECISION will be sooner than we think. After all, no matter what your position, no one desires this ongoing debate.

    With the publication of Cardinal Coccopalmerio's booklet by the Vatican Press, I believe we've reached a final point where varying nuances of explaining Amoris Laetitia in favor of distributing Holy Communion to those in objective sin will no longer be offered. Praetorian and I sincerely want unity in the Church, but I believe what will be required is conformity. I trust everyone understands the subtle difference.:(

    Safe in the Barque of Peter!
     
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    I was thinking about this at lunch time today , Terry and it suddenly came to me that if , God forbid, schism ever did come in many ways it might not be a bad thing. Because instead of having the heretics on the inside like termites, suddenly and magically heading off to do their own thing. I would wave them off a fond farewell . .Then to be left with a much smaller but holier Church with, wonder of wonders no heretics.

    It doesn't sound like a bad trade off to me. :):)Let them keep all the beautiful Cathedrals, works of art and big bank accounts. Just leave us all in peace.

    Ahhh sweet dream.
     
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    A brief peace, I dare say. But then, Our Victorious Lady will come! As you often quote:

    Song of Songs 6:9 Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in array?
     
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    I was thinking about this in the shower today. My husband and children and I all go to Mass with his parents on Sundays. If and when the day comes when the Mass being offered officially is no longer the real Mass, I am afraid that I will not be on the same side as my husband and his parents. I am praying for conversion for them before that happens. I would somehow have to refuse to go with them and instead try to find a real Mass underground somewhere.....and what about the children? I fear they will turn against me as well. I have had dreams in the past of disasters where only a few of the children end up with me.....maybe those dreams were foreshadowing a situation like this.
     
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    Heidi I fear we are going to run into those problems. I have thought about these types of things as well. My only advice is to take things one day at a time. Events are so crazy right now in the Church that we have no idea how things will wind up. Just deal with each problem as it comes to you. Try and plan ahead a bit in your mind but don't be consumed with what might happen. Prayer is the key!
     
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    Sr. Emmanuel Responds to Mystic Post: “Yes… according to Vicka, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary is VERY close”.

    Dear Mr. Ryan,

    In response to your question whether or not I care to comment on your “report”, I do.
    I see that you, and Chere Gospa, took a word of my French commentary on the message of February 2nd. I did not expect that the commentary would be spread beyond the French speaking audience.
    However this gives me the opportunity to tell you why I said that and in what context. Praise God! My point was to encourage my own people of France, to not despair seeing the attacks and persecution against Catholic in my country.
    Therefore, I stated that in France there are many hidden saints that are not noisy, that are not noticed, but who are preparing the new Pentecost of love spoken about by Venerable Marthe Robin. These people already carry the victory of the Immaculate Heart in their own hearts! In that context I said: “According to Vicka, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary is VERY close”.
    You know that we are swimming in a major apostasy. Our Lady said: “all is collapsing” and Vicka added: “not only the family”.
    The question is not so much “when will the triumph happen?” (This might be part of the “questions” that Our Lady spoke about lately when she said, basically, “don’t lose your time in asking questions”. The real question is: ‘Today, in my simple daily life, how can I give a hand to Our Lady, allowing her to win over evil in my own heart?’
    Because this is the way to hasten her triumph!
    What Vicka shared about the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary being VERY close is not new. In fact, it follows the same line of thought we find in other prophetic voices given to us by God for our times. For example, Lucia of Fatima, who presents us with the most magnificent prophecy for our times, also learned from Our Lady that: “At the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph”.

    But this begs the question – at the end of what? And maybe that is where your question comes from. Perhaps, you are concerned about the end…
    For all of those who are connected with Medjugorje, living Our Lady’s messages, and trying to cling to Jesus, we know that the visionaries are filled with prophetic knowledge. So much so that when they hear of anything catastrophic, they are never down, rather they keep an incredible peace. They know that at the end, Our Lady, in communion with her Son, will realize her plan for Medjugorje and for the world.
    Don’t forget when Cardinal Caffara of Bologna was appointed by Saint John Paul II to create a ministry specifically for the family, he wrote to Sr. Lucia asking for her prayerful support. He was shocked to receive a handwritten response from her, which is kept in the Vatican archives. In it she said: “The most Holy Virgin told me that the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle with the Virgin. And a decisive battle is the final battle where one side will be victorious and the other side will suffer defeat. Also from now on we must choose sides. Either we are on the side of God or we are on the side of the devil. There is no other possibility…

    the final battle between the Lord and the reign of Satan will be about marriage and the family
    . Don’t be afraid.” She added: “Anyone who operates for the sanctity of marriage and the family will always be contended and opposed in every way because this is the decisive issue.” Then she concluded: “However, Our Lady has already crushed its head.”

    Here we are in the last battle mentioned by Lucia, let’s look around!
    Remember the tears of blood and the apparitions of Our Lady in Cicitavecchia, both to Jessica Gregori and to her father Fabio. It is the same message, among others: “Satan will destroy the family.”

    Let’s rejoice, in the midst of today’s darkness, that yes, the triumph of Mary’s Heart is very near, it gives us so much courage! But beware! We can miss the boat so easily by focusing on what’s going to happen in the future, and getting lost in projecting ourselves ahead of time. It is a big temptation. This would mean losing the battle, not seizing the graces of today to be strengthened. According to Mirjana, Our Lady is sad about this attitude we can have.
    So, my dear friend, here is my answer: I do believe, like Vicka and many others, that the triumph is very near, but my fear is that I may delay it if I don’t pray, if I don’t fast, and if I don’t live Our Lady’s messages.
    Please, in your publicity and on your website and in your emails, help Our Lady to gain new apostles who will hasten her triumph. She is looking for souls who will be willing to be one soul with her soul and I am sure that she is counting on you!
    May God bless you!
    Sr. Emmanuel+
     
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    I already deal with this on some level. We continue to attend our local parish Mass but I yearn to find something more traditional. But I know that one thing that keeps the kids coming with me is their comfort with the familiar and seeing so many other members of our local community there.
     
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    Thank you for posting this very important message!
     
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    From "To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons" (Fr. Gobbi)

    It will be the Spirit of Love, with his powerful action of fire and of grace renewing the very foundations of the whole world. It will be He, the Spirit of Love, with his great force of holiness and of light, bringing my Church to new splendor, making it therefore humble and poor, evangelical and chaste, merciful and holy. It will be the Spirit of Love, through the fire of innumerable sufferings renewing all creation, that it may become that garden of God, that terrestrial paradise in which Jesus will always be with you, like a sun of light reflecting its rays everywhere.” (#284, Jan. 28, 1984)

    "Take courage, resume the journey in trust and hope. You are approaching moments of grace in which you will see flow out upon the world the torrents of divine mercy. The world will then be purified by this divine fire of love, and it will be completely renewed, so that Jesus may bring into your midst his kingdom of grace and of holiness, of justice, of love and of peace.”
    (#602, Dec. 8, 1997)

    St. Augustine“My Lord, grant that your Flame of Love may burn in me and growing into a single flame may it burn constantly on the altar of my heart. May your Flame of Love burn through my soul and consume it, so that the last day of my life may be a day of union with you forever. Amen.”
     
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    I think the Warning will come before the greatest part of the apostasy takes place. This will bring those who are clueless, but want to be faithful, back within the faith. Some people have chosen to be clueless, while others cannot detach and abandon themselves from this world, which keeps their eye's closed at this moment from seeing their own soul in the light of God. Just bind them through your rosary to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and don't worry. (y)
     
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    Yes, a post of great hope!

    1Peter1 :3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy we have been born anew to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and to an inheritance which is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, 5 who by God's power are guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while you may have to suffer various trials, 7 so that the genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold which though perishable is tested by fire, may redound to praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8 Without having seen him you love him; though you do not now see him you believe in him and rejoice with unutterable and exalted joy.

    So we are also called to not simply look forward to Our Lady's Triumph, but help bring it to fruition!

    Maranatha! I am coming soon! Alleluia!(y):love::LOL::ROFLMAO:
     
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    Strangely, we attend a very large conservative parish, which I love. Our local parish is very liberal. Sometimes my husband suggests that we should go there and be more part of the community, but I just cannot bear to go there.
     
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    Thanks, Fatima. I believe they are clueless because of their upbringing, and so will hopefully come around once they can see the truth with the Warning.
     
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    "Therefore, I stated that in France there are many hidden saints that are not noisy, that are not noticed, but who are preparing the new Pentecost of love"

    This is what I have been telling you guys. And Pope Francis has knowledge and access to these Mystics.

    :)
     
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