Pope Francis and New Church Teachings.

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    Pope Francis and his brand New Church Teachings on Just War and Capital Punishment.

    Brand, brand New.

    He just made them all up.

    From out of nowhere.

     
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    And don't forget his novel thinking on marriage in AL, his Pachamama idolatry. Wait until the all wise one has his say on contraception and Humanae Vitae his ultimate target in my opinion. It's next on his agenda.
     
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    Pope Francis and New Church Teachings

    It's just Another reason added to the growing mountain of reasons of why I (and many others too) do not pay this pope and many theologians/teachers .. much attention these days...
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    The First Pope says:

    "There will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping." ... 2 Pet 2
     
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    I believe that the change in the catechism on the death penalty added to the decentralization promoted by Francis is intended to allow episcopal conferences to publish their own version of the catechism with "pastoral sensitivity to adapt to new times" on February 15 of this year the Pope published a Motu Proprio of its own that allows, among other measures, that episcopal conferences can publish their own versions of the catechism, no longer resorting to the approval of the Holy See but only to confirmation, depending on the ambiguous language that is used in many cases this can favor the emergence of heresies in the local churches.
    Pope Francis seeks ‘healthy decentralization’ with new changes to canon law
    [​IMG]Pope Francis’ general audience in the Paul VI Hall at the Vatican, Feb. 9, 2022. | Vatican Media.
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    By Courtney Mares

    Vatican City, Feb 15, 2022 / 07:20 am

    Pope Francis unveiled new changes to Church law in an apostolic letter published Tuesday, saying that he was seeking to promote “a healthy decentralization” in the Church.

    In the letter

    Among the changes in the motu proprio, entitled Assegnare alcune competenze (“Assigning some competencies”), were articles regarding the establishment of interdiocesan seminaries, the incardination of clerics, the publication of catechisms by bishops’ conferences, and laws concerning temporary professed vows.

    Pope Francis explained that with the changes he wanted to encourage “a more rapid effectiveness of the pastoral action of government on the part of the local authority.”

    “I have considered it opportune to make changes to the norms hitherto in force concerning some specific matters, attributing the respective competencies,” Pope Francis wrote.

    “These normative changes reflect even more the shared and plural universality of the Church, which includes differences without homogenizing them, with the guarantee, as far as unity is concerned, of the ministry of the Bishop of Rome,” he said.

    Some of the 10 articles in the decree consist of only small changes in wording.

    For example, Article 8 changes canon law so that the Vatican will only need to “confirm,” rather than “approve,” the publication of catechisms by a Catholic bishops’ conference.

    Canon 775 §2 previously said: “If it seems useful, it is for the conference of bishops to take care that catechisms are issued for its territory, with the previous approval of the Apostolic See.”

    The law now states: “If it seems useful, it is for the conference of bishops to take care that catechisms are issued for its territory, subject to confirmation by the Apostolic See.”

    The change from the requirement for Vatican “confirmation,” rather than approval, also applies to Article 1, on the creation of interdiocesan seminaries, and Article 2, on the Ratio (guidelines) of priestly formation.

    Pope Francis signed the motu proprio on Feb. 11, the feast of Our Lady of Lourdes.

    This is the second motu proprio that Pope Francis has issued this week. On Monday, the pope also decreed the reorganization of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith into a doctrinal section and a disciplinary section.

    The Vatican website currently lists 49 documents in its section dedicated to motu proprios issued by Pope Francis since his election in 2013.

    Bishop Marco Mellino, the secretary of the Council of Cardinals and a member of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, told Vatican News that he saw Tuesday’s motu proprio as part of “the work of reform that Pope Francis has initiated since the beginning of his pontificate.”

    “It responds to the spirit of ‘healthy decentralization’ indicated in the apostolic exhortation Evangelii gaudium, n. 32, aimed at favoring and enhancing the dynamics of proximity in the Church, without compromising hierarchical communion with this,” he said.

    He added: “It is evident, in fact, that when the authority has a direct and closer knowledge of the persons and cases in point that require a pastoral action of government, this action, by virtue of its proximity, can be of more rapid efficacy.”
    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...ecentralization-with-new-changes-to-canon-law
     
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    DeCentralization has been a push by the AntiChurch operating within corridors of the visible Catholic Church for years..

    It is unhealthy as all get up.

    THE CHURCH of which God's Authority flows from Him downward, is not a Legion of groups independent from Above..
     
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    Decentralization is also a way of making the next pope unable to govern if he is a conservative as many bishops with autonomy over church doctrine may rebel against the Holy See.
     
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    Praying for Pope Francis. I keep meaning to pray for Our Holy Father but never seem to get around to it.

    I take this as a very bad sign. I suspect if God does not want to hear our prayers on certain matters He causes us to forget to ask.

    Praying now and offering up Mass this morning.

    Sometimes I wonder about the Holy Father and the prayers that are being offered up for himself. Millions and millions of Catholics prayer for him everyday. For instance at the start of the rosary folks offer up three Hail Mary's for the Pope. Of these millions and millions of prayers many are certainly said by saints, great saints and victim souls. Many, many Masses are said directly for His intentions..there must be hundreds and hundreds every day.

    This huge, huge outpouring of grace falling on his old head every second; deluges and deluges of grace.

    This must be having some effect surely. Yet, sigh, it all seems like water of a duck's back.

    Sigh, sigh ,sigh.

    But it is not Pope Francis who greatly concerns me . It is the next Pope. What if it someone even worse? I know this may be hard to imagine, but it is very,very possible?

    Oh well it is in the Hands of the Good God. It is His Church. We can be sure He will take care of her.

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    Dividing "Papal/Bishops Authority into numerous Autonomous Regions - is a perfect example of the mechanics of Divide and Conquer..
    It's been discussed in the past - E.G. Regions in America...
    If say Region Los Angeles decides that Sinful SameGender Unions/marriages are OK.. Then it's OK... In Region Los Angeles
    AND SINCE as many here have been agreeing... The Vatican Has Fallen?
    It's become easier to make note/count the number of (orthodox vs dissident heterodox/liberal) Bishops in full Communion with Catholicism (some label them "conservative") - on one's fingers and toes..
    Those Cardinals/Bishops who are Not in Communion with Catholicism's Doctrines? Are - either knowingly or ignorantly - following Satan.

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    yea; but as Christ has promised us, he himself will be with the Church (Roman Catholic) until the end of time; then we have the promise that he himself (through a holy pope) will restore the Roman Catholic Church.
    MATTHEW 16:16-19
    16 Then Simon Peter spoke up and said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.'

    17 Jesus replied, 'Simon son of Jonah, you are a blessed man! Because it was no human agency that revealed this to you but my Father in heaven.

    18 So I now say to you: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my community. And the gates of the underworld can never overpower it.

    19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'
    MATTHEW 28:16-20
    16 Meanwhile the eleven disciples set out for Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had arranged to meet them.

    17 When they saw him they fell down before him, though some hesitated.

    18 Jesus came up and spoke to them. He said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    20 and teach them to observe all the commands I gave you. And look, I am with you always; yes, to the end of time.'
    John 21:14-19
    14 This was the third time that Jesus revealed himself to the disciples after rising from the dead.

    15 When they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you love me more than these others do?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my lambs.'

    16 A second time he said to him, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' He replied, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Look after my sheep.'

    17 Then he said to him a third time, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' Peter was hurt that he asked him a third time, 'Do you love me?' and said, 'Lord, you know everything; you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my sheep.

    18 In all truth I tell you, when you were young you put on your own belt and walked where you liked; but when you grow old you will stretch out your hands, and somebody else will put a belt round you and take you where you would rather not go.'

    19 In these words he indicated the kind of death by which Peter would give glory to God. After this he said, 'Follow me.'
    John 12:24-26
    24 In all truth I tell you, unless a wheat grain falls into the earth and dies, it remains only a single grain; but if it dies it yields a rich harvest.

    25 Anyone who loves his life loses it; anyone who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

    26 Whoever serves me, must follow me, and my servant will be with me wherever I am. If anyone serves me, my Father will honour him.

    Peter died in Rome and built the church there bearing much fruit for the propagation of the gospel (including the future conversion of Constantine) Christ's promises are always linked to the Roman Catholic Church even though the enemies are doing their best to destroy it from within .
     
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    It's not all bad news.

    Bishop Barron did very,very well here.

     
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    Yes, Christ Jesus shall always be with THE Church...
    Also known as The Mystical Body of Christ: Ref: Pope Pius XII - "Mystici Corporis Christi"
    https://www.vatican.va/content/pius...ii_enc_29061943_mystici-corporis-christi.html

    And THE Church is realized as consisting of three spiritually interconnected Churches:

    The Church Triumphant - The Saints in Heaven
    The Church Militant - Those on Earth - The "visible" Church..
    The Church "Expectant" - Those who've died and are in Purgatory

    Of importance is to note Pope Pius XII's Article 103 from MCC..

    103. As you know, Venerable Brethren, from the very beginning of Our Pontificate, We have committed to the protection and guidance of heaven those who do not belong to the visible Body of the Catholic Church, solemnly declaring that after the example of the Good Shepherd We desire nothing more ardently than that they may have life and have it more abundantly.[194] Imploring the prayers of the whole Church We wish to repeat this solemn declaration in this Encyclical Letter in which We have proclaimed the praises of the "great and glorious Body of Christ"[195] and from a heart overflowing with love We ask each and every one of them to correspond to the interior movements of grace, and to seek to withdraw from that state in which they cannot be sure of their salvation.[196] For even though by an unconscious desire and longing they have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer, they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church. Therefore may they enter into Catholic unity and, joined with Us in the one, organic Body of Jesus Christ, may they together with us run on to the one Head in the Society of glorious love.[197] Persevering in prayer to the Spirit of love and truth, We wait for them with open and outstretched arms to come not to a stranger's house, but to their own, their father's home.

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    St Bernadette was once asked when the French were fighting the Germans,

    'Do you not fear the Prussians?'

    The which the young saint replied,

    'I only fear bad Catholics'.

    Which is truer today than ever.

    We have very much to fear from bad Catholics, especially among the Hierarchy.

    It's so strange the Mother General of Bernadette's nuns said that she did not believe in apparitions.

    How strange. What was the appearance of the Arcangel Gabriel to Mary at the Annunciation but an apparition?

    ..and what were the angels who appeared to the Shepherds on Christmas Night but an Apparition.

    The Bible is one long tale of apparitions, one after the other.

    Poor Bernadette.

    I love this by Berlioz, 'The Shepherds Farewell' (to the baby Jesus).

     
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    The film 'Bernadette', is on Amazon Prime video at the moment.

    Well, well worth watching,

    I am watching it now. Apparently the devil attacked her directly. I never knew this.

    Once many many years ago I fell asleep in a place of total darkness.

    Out of that great darkness came something even darker than the Dark.

    It reminds of what St Brigit of Sweden said one time when the devil appeared to her, she asked him who he was and he answered,

    'I am darkness itself'.'

    He reached out and touched me and it was like being electrocuted only far far worse. It felt like every single atom of myself was hurt and being dissolved.

    I felt also his rage against me, it was astonishing.

    Then far in the distance like a little firefly cam a tiny light which grew as it approached at incredible speed. It was the Arcangel Michael. I knew it at once. He appeared to hold up his hand and the devil at once stopped.

    The devil said to St Michael in a hoarse grating voice.

    'Why do you bother with these cattle?'

    But as he said the word, 'Cattle' , there was the most intense disdain, he considers us less then flies.

    St Micheal said nothing in reply, but I woke up at once.

    Last night I woke up in the same way he was like a huge black dog growling in my face just getting ready to rend and tear...

    My Spiritual Director one time told me to take these things as compliments; I am bowed down with compliments lately.
    The devil is unhappy with the forum, but then again he is never happy with anything much...except perhaps Rome?

    He must be very,very,very happy with Rome. How could he not be? They do all that he wants as soon as he wants it...

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    Sometimes Our Lady makes me smile and laugh, for she reminds me in her answers of my own mother.

    I complain to her when things are hard and she answers me,

    'Well if it wasn't hard there wouldn't be much good in it, would it?'

    :D:D

    Country wisdom. Mary was a country girl too; like my own mother. They have a way of putting things in a nutshell.:)
     
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    Just as the Leaders of the 'religion' of Jesus' time - were Disobedient and those who remained Faithful were at that time - Few,
    so too, that is a mirror-image to what's been going down today..

    Re: The Church Militant = Both Sacred Scriptures, Apostolic Tradition and Magisterium are quite clear.

    Jesus and only Jesus upon His Return - is He who shall Save the Church - and His People. The Church Militant shall not go along in the manner of a progressive ascendancy.

    677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.

    The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy,
    but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.

    God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.

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    To believe otherwise - is an unallowable adding to God's and Apostolic Public Revelation..

    There will be no further Revelation

    66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away;
    and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."
    28 Yet even if Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit;
    it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of the centuries.

    67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith.
    It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history.
    Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.
     
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    only the glorious return of Christ will definitively defeat the forces of evil that are also present in the world working for the destruction of souls, however this does not prevent a new Pentecost that coincides with the era of world peace promised by Our Lady of Fatima, the The original Pentecost was a comfort after the Ascension of Jesus as well as the most visible manifestation of the Holy Spirit in church history, yet this did not stop the forces of evil from battling to destroy the church in the early years as the Jews persecuted the church and the Gnostics that the apostles and the church fathers fought so much, there was always the wheat and the tares in the midst of the Holy Church; even after glorious manifestations from heaven such as the miracle of the Sun in Fatima (10/13/1917)
     
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    Don Bosco's Dream (Prophecy of The 200 Day March)

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    The following is a from a dream or prophecy of St. John Bosco. This occurred between May 24 - June 24, 1873. The vision is related from the tenth volume of the Biographical Memoirs:

    It was a dark night, and men could no longer find their way back to their own countries. Suddenly a most brilliant light (faith in God and in His power) shone in the sky, illuminating their way as at high noon. At that moment from the Vatican came forth, as in procession, a multitude of men and women, young children, monks, nuns, and priests, and at their head was the Pope. (It seems to allude to the suppression of monasteries and schools run by religious and to the Pope's exile.)


    But a furious storm broke out, somewhat dimming that light, as if light and darkness were locked in battle. (Perhaps this means a battle between truth and error, or else a bloody war.) Meanwhile the long procession reached a small square littered with dead and wounded, many of whom cried for help.

    The ranks of the procession thinned considerably. After a two-hundred day march, all realized that they were no longer in Rome. In dismay they swarmed about the Pontiff to protect him and minister to him in his needs.

    At that moment two angels appeared, bearing a banner which they presented to the Supreme Pontiff, saying: "Take the banner of Her who battles and routs the most powerful armies on earth. Your enemies have vanished: with tears and sighs your children plead for your return."

    One side of the banner bore the inscription: Regina sine labe concepta [Queen conceived without sine],and the other side read: Auxilium Christianorum [Help of Christians].

    The Pontiff accepted the banner gladly, but he became distressed to see how few were his followers.

    But the two angels went on: "Go now, comfort your children. Write to your brothers scattered throughout the world that men must reform their lives. This cannot be achieved unless the bread of the Divine Word is broken among the peoples. Teach children their catechism and preach detachment from earthly things. The time has come," the two angles concluded, "when the poor will evangelize the world. Priests shall be sought among those who wield the hoe, the spade, and the hammer, as David prophesied: 'God lifted the poor man from the fields to place him on the throne of His people.'"

    On hearing this, the Pontiff moved on, and the ranks began to swell. Upon reaching the Holy City, the Pontiff wept at the sight of its desolate citizens, for many of them were no longer.He then entered St. Peter's and intoned the Te Deum, to which a chorus of angels responded, singing: Gloria in excelsis Deo et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis [Glory to God in the highest, and peace on earth to men of good will.] When the song was over, all darkness vanished and a blazing sun shone. The population had declined greatly in the cities and in the countryside; the land was mangled as if by a hurricane and hailstorm, and people sought each other, deeply moved, and saying: Est Deus in Israel [There is a God in Israel].

    From the start of the exile until the intoning of the Te Deum, the sun rose 200 times. All the events described covered a period of 400 days.

    http://salesianity.blogspot.com/2016/01/don-boscos-dream-prophecy-of-200-day.html
     
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    A few years back I was in Rome at an occasion in one of the Great Basillica's , I think it was St Mary Major. At the end of the Mass the Dignitaries walked out all dressed up. As I looked at one of him with his mitre on he turned huge before my eyes and turned into a monster. I saw with the eyes of my heart what he really was , an incarnate demon. One of the Leaders of the Church.
     
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    Some people say we should stay silent about the evil things that are going on in the Church.

    But sometimes staying silent is the greater evil.

    I sense these evil days are one such time; when silence is not an option.
     
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    This section from Lucia's Fatima messages covers that:

    "If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church.
    The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated.
    In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.
    The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world"


    The 'badness' of Russia of latter 1917 and onward - is the result of AntiChristian Bolshevism.. aka The Russian Revolution..

    Today? .. The Enemy of the Church has infiltrated most nations which are/were ostensibly Christian..
     
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