"The Next Pope: The Leading Cardinal Candidates"

LIVE From Rome | Panel Discussion of "The Next Pope: The Leading Cardinal Candidates"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=cTzdF_3rItU&feature=emb_logo

 

I think that if there is a normal succession process, the successor would be Cardinal Pietro Parolin, he seems to be a candidate to resolve an impasse in the vote since I believe that the College of Cardinals is very divided even though Francis has given impetus to the appointment of progressive cardinals , now if you consider most of the articles on the subject, Cardinal Tagle is the most referred to as a likely successor to Francis.

 

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/tell-all-book-predicts-next-pope

 

For what it’s worth, I was watching Ewtn this morning, and after the rosary there was the usual Wednesday audience with the Pope. He seemed weak and was mumbling the Pater Noster in Latin. I was surprised. He truly mumbled.

 

Friday 01 October |

Pope jokes his successor will be John XXIV



Antoine Mekary | ALETEIA

Kathleen N. Hattrup - published on 09/30/21

Responding to an invitation for a diocesan anniversary in 2025, Pope Francis jokes that it will be the next pope to do it.
By 2025, a successor of Pope Francis will be on the Throne of Peter and his name could be Pope John XXIV, implied Francis himself in a light-hearted quip to the bishop of Ragusa, Italy.

Bishop Giuseppe La Placa explained the Pope’s playful comment that he gave in response to the bishop’s invitation to come to Ragusa in 2025 for the 75th anniversary of the founding of the diocese.


The bishop told the Ansa agency, “The Holy Father made a smile and a nod of assent and with a joke answered me by saying that in 2025 it will be John XXIV to make that visit.”

Not anytime soon
At the beginning of September, Pope Francis told a Spanish radio station that his health is good, following his colon surgery in early July. “It didn’t even cross my mind [to resign],” the Pope said.

However, the Pope has also made clear that he keeps in mind that life is short, and that we have to be prepared for our death. He turns 85 in December. Already in 2014, returning from South Korea, he joked with journalists that in two or three years, he’d be “off to the house of the Father.”

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Papal names


As to the name the next pope might choose, it will be entirely up to him. If he were to take John XXIV, he would be following in the footsteps of St. John XXIII who started the Second Vatican Council and is known as the Good Pope or the Smiling Pope.

John XXIIII was canonized by Pope Francis in 2014, along with St. John Paul II. His feast day is not the day of his death, as is often the case, but October 11, the day he opened Vatican II.


Pope Francis broke recent traditions to choose an entirely new name that has never been used by a pope before. This was the first time this has happened since the 10th century. He said that the name came to him while a cardinal embraced him immediately after his election.

[The cardinal embraced me and said], ‘Don’t forget the poor’ … and that struck me … the poor … Immediately I thought of St Francis of Assisi. Francis was a man of peace, a man of poverty, a man who loved and protected creation.

If someone were to pick Francis again, he would be Francis II.

Read more:How do popes choose their new name?
Read more:When Pope St. John XXIII brought us into his childhood home to promote a centuries-old devotion
Undoer of Knots
Bishop La Placa’s conversation with the Pope came during a private audience on September 27. He also reported that the visit impressed on him the Holy Father’s “paternal soul and apostolic spirit.”

The bishop presented a gift to the Pope, thanks to artist Giovanni Scalambrieri, who accompanied him. The artist gave Francis a bronze statue he made of Our Lady Undoer of Knots. The piece is about 2 feet tall and made with a wax technique.

Our Lady Under of Knots is celebrated on September 26, and is one of the Pope’s favorite advocations to Our Lady.
https://aleteia.org/2021/09/30/pope-jokes-his-successor-will-be-john-xxiv/

 

It's highly unlikely we can predict the next pope, since we are relying on the press and they have no inside knowledge of how the college of cardinals thinks. Karol Wojtyla's election took everyone by surprise, most lay people not knowing who he was, although he was well-known to his fellow cardinals. There is so much smoke and mirrors about this. No one talks about Cardinal Scola any more, yet he was tipped as a likely successor to BXVI. There's a rumour that Benedict resigned in the belief that Scola would replace him, but I'm not sure how seriously we can take this.

It all depends on how well the cardinals think Francis has done. Yes, he's been packing the college with his own nominations, but once in place, they might have ideas of their own.

I've no idea, anyway, and nor do the journalists.

Pray, pray, pray...

 

Pope Francis Names 21 New Cardinals, Including US Bishop McElroy
The 85-year-old Pope made the announcement from a window overlooking St. Peter’s Square.


Pope Francis created 13 new Cardinals during the Ordinary Public Consistory inside St. Peter's Basilica, Nov. 28, 2020. (photo: Vatican Media / VM)
CNA StaffVaticanMay 29, 2022
VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said on Sunday that he will create 21 new cardinals, including San Diego Bishop Robert Walter McElroy, at a consistory on Aug. 27.

The 85-year-old Pope made the announcement from a window overlooking St. Peter’s Square after reciting the Regina Coeli prayer on May 29.

This is the full list:

• Arthur Roche, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (United Kingdom).
• Lazzaro You Heung-sik, Prefect for the Congregation for Clergy (South Korea).
• Fernando Vergez Alzaga, President of the Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State (Spain).
• Archbishop Jean-Marc Aveline, of Marseille (France).
• Archbishop Peter Okpaleke, of Ekwulobia (Nigeria).
• Archbishop Leonardo Ulrich Steiner, of Manaus (Brazil).
• Archbishop Filipe Neri António Sebastião of Rosário Ferrão, of Goa e Damão (India).
• Bishop Robert Walter McElroy, of San Diego (United States)
• Archbishop Virgilio Do Carmo Da Silva, of Dili (East Timor).
• Bishop Oscar Cantoni, of Como (Italy).
• Archbishop Anthony Poola, of Hyderabad (India).
• Archbishop Paulo Cezar Costa,, of Brasília (Brazil).
• Bishop Richard Kuuia Baawobr M. Afr, of Wa (Ghana).
• Archbishop William Goh Seng Chye, of Singapore (Singapore).
• Archbishop Adalberto Martínez Flores, of Asunción (Paraguay).
• Archbishop Giorgio Marengo, Prefect of Ulaanbaatar (Mongolia).

Five are over the age of 80:

• Archbishop Jorge Enrique Jiménez Carvajal, Archbishop Emeritus of Cartagena (Colombia).
• Archbishop Lucas Van Looy sdb, Archbishop Emeritus of Ghent (Belgium).
• Archbishop Arrigo Miglio, Archbishop Emeritus of Cagliari (Italy).
• Father Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj (Italy).
• Monsignor Fortunato Frezza (Italy).

Since his election in 2013, Pope Francis has created 101 cardinals from 58 countries at seven consistories.

The last consistory to create new cardinals took place on Nov. 28, 2020. The new cardinals included Cardinal Wilton Gregory of Washington and Cardinal Raniero Cantalamessa, the Preacher to the Papal Household since 1980.


Immediately following the 2020 consistory, Pope Francis had appointed 73 of the members of the College of Cardinals eligible to vote a future conclave. Benedict XVI had named 39 of the cardinal electors and John Paul II had appointed 16.

Ahead of the upcoming consistory, there are currently 117 cardinal electors, 67 (52%) of whom have been appointed by Pope Francis.

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/pope-francis-names-21-new-cardinals-including-us-bishop-mcelroy

 

He doesn't exactly have a heart of a lion and won't be backing Cordelione.

In 2005, he published an essay on the denial of the Eucharist to public officials because of their political positions. He criticized those who adopt what he called the "sanctions position" for a lack of "pastoral solicitude", noted the expansion of grounds for sanctions from abortion to euthanasia and other issues by one diocese or another, questioned the lack of clarity as to what behavior triggers sanctions, and cited the occasions when Pope John Paul II distributed the Eucharist to political leaders who favored legalized abortion. He proposed that the church's traditional "theology of scandal" should be invoked rather than employing Eucharistic practice as a means of discipline. He warned that imposing sanctions on individuals harms the church by appearing coercive, strengthens the argument of abortion advocates that the church is attempting to impose its religious beliefs on society at large, downplays the breadth of the church's social agenda, and tends to "cast the church as a partisan actor in the American political system."[9]

Robert W. McElroy - Wikipedia

 

in the Wikipedia article it also says that McElroy was educated by the Jesuits and writes for their official publication in the USA. I think it's a very enlightening information about his ministry.

 

The word Jesuit....these days it is not a positive.

And yet a few nights ago I was listening to Jesuit father Vincent Micheli who wrote books on modernism and the antichrist. He died several years ago but like A. Sheen he can be found on you tube. Wonderful priest!!! What Jesuits used to be like-- Fr John Hardin too.

 

I wonder why the "other side" chose precisely the glorious Jesuit order to impose a liberal revolution on the Church.

 

While an African pope is possible, an Asian may be a better bet
John L. Allen Jr. | Crux Now
Oct 07, 2022 • 4 Min Read

Pope Francis talks with Cardinal Albert Malcolm Ranjith of Colombo, Sri Lanka, during an audience with pilgrims from Sri Lanka after a Mass in St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican in 2014. (CNS photo/Paul Haring)
In the run-up to at least the last two papal elections, speculation swirled on many fronts, with one of the most popular talking points being whether a candidate from Africa was a live possibility.

For whatever reason, the prospect of a “black pope” seems to excite the global imagination – even though Catholic insiders may insist that we’ve actually had a “black pope” for centuries in the person of the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, i.e., the Jesuits.

Whenever the next conclave may occur, the question is likely to present itself again: Could there be an African pope?

For whatever such guesswork is worth, here’s my answer: Of course an African pope is possible, but right now, if you’re trying to think outside the box, I’d say Asia is a better bet.

Let’s begin with the “of course an African’s possible” part.

Just as the election of John Paul II in 1978 shattered the Italian monopoly on the papacy, the choice of Francis in 2013 ended the era of the European hold on the Throne of Peter. In an era of social mobility and instantaneous internet communication, the pope could come from anywhere.

In the abstract, many cardinals probably would find the idea of electing an African attractive. It would be a vivid demonstration of the church’s solidarity with the developing world, it would be a powerful statement against racism, and it would also be a recognition of the growth and dynamism within African Catholicism.

The problem, as ever, is that one doesn’t elect popes in the abstract. You need a concrete, flesh-and-blood candidate, and looking around today, it’s not clear who that would be. The African favorite the last time around, Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana, is now retired from his Vatican post as prefect of the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development.

Similarly, Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea is also gone as prefect of the erstwhile Congregation for Divine Worship. While Turkson would appeal to progressive cardinals and Sarah to conservatives looking for a course correction, it’s not clear either man could command a two-thirds majority.

Many of the other Africa cardinals aren’t sufficiently well known outside their own contexts, such as Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo of Congo or Cardinal Antoine Kambanda of Rwanda. Granted, that could change if enough time passes between now and whenever the next election may take place.

However, even if a conclave were to happen today, there are several Asian cardinals who’d probably be on the “A lists” of many papal handicappers.

To begin with, there’s Cardinal Luis Antonio “Chito” Tagle, currently co-leader of the new Dicastery for Evangelization. Tagle was also considered a candidate last time around, but a decade ago he was in his mid-50s and many cardinals may not have been in the mood for another long papacy. Today he’s 65, and he’s also perceived as a charismatic, popular public figure, a personally humble man who would charm the world. Broadly speaking, Tagle would appeal to the “continuity” vote in the next conclave, meaning cardinals who want to continue the approach of Pope Francis.

The major question mark about Tagle probably is whether he’s strong enough for the job, given his “nice guy” persona. On the other hand, after a decade of what’s been perceived as an extremely decisive papacy, a candidate who might augur a bit more calm, and thus less turbulence, could be attractive.

Next up is Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith of Sri Lanka, who turns 75 in November.

He has extensive Vatican experience, having served in the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, as the pope's nuncio to Indonesia and East Timor, and then as Secretary for the Congregation of Divine Worship. He also studied in Rome at the Urban University and is proficient in Italian. That background would appeal to cardinals who believe that one of the next pope’s main tasks will be continuing the reform of the Roman Curia launched by Francis.

Ranjith would be a strong candidate among more conservative cardinals. In Rome he was known as the “little Ratzinger,” in part for his short physical stature but also due to his perceived closeness to Pope Benedict XVI. He also gets high marks for his leadership of the church in Sri Lanka during that country’s various political crises.

One also has to consider Cardinal Charles Bo of Myanmar, who turns 74 on Oct. 29. He’s got experience of the global church as a member of the worldwide Salesian order, and enjoys the respect of his fellow prelates in Asia who elected him as president of the Federation of Asian Bishops’ Conferences in 2018.

Choosing Bo also would be a statement of solidarity with persecuted Christians around the world, since the church in Myanmar faces a whole series of restrictions and challenges, as well as a recognition of Bo’s shrewd maneuvering in the wake of the country’s military coup. Although Catholics are a tiny minority in Myanmar, Bo has emerged as the country’s most important religious voice.

As an outside possibility, there’s also Cardinal Lazzaro You Heung-sik of South Korea, currently head of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Clergy. He’s the first Korean to head a Vatican department, and an old Rome hand after studying at the Pontifical Lateran University. He’s also got an international base of support as a close friend of the Focolare movement.

You Heung-sik isn’t as familiar as the other three Asians mentioned above, but as head of the Dicastery for Clergy he’s got ample opportunity to win friends and influence people.

So, to sum up: If the question simply is whether an African pope is possible, then the answer is “sure.” If you’re looking for a realistic Third World runner, on the other hand, you may want to look a bit farther east.

https://angelusnews.com/news/vatican/while-an-african-pope-is-possible-an-asian-may-be-a-better-bet/

 

Because they were always a bulwark. Shock troops for orthodoxy. Absolutely necessary to take them out....IMHO.

 

Watched interview tonight of Archbishop Schneider by Raymond Arroyo. He didn't hold back on the Pope and his cronies manipulation of the upcoming synod. How long will it take for them to declare the Pope a heretic. The faithful cardinals and bishops are starting to speak out much more openly.
The Catholic faith is at stake. It's really wrong to stay silent.

 

My dog is even starting to growl when he sees pictures of these people.

I shouted across the road the other week at one of the Jesuits from up the street.

'I have a problem with Pope Francis!'.

But instead of doing accompaniment and dialogue he shouted back,

'Well you'll just have to put up with it!'

..and moved on briskly. The Jesuits all know what I think and are appalled. But I am appalled at them, so we're all equal.

 

If he comes from Mars I could care less, as long as he's a good, holy man.

 

Mars might be a bit close. It may need to be the nearest star system.

 

Ditto! Father in heaven in Your mercy please send us a holy pope. In Jesus's Name we pray.

 

Jorge Mario Bergoglio pretended for years to be a conservative cardinal during the pontificates of John Paul II and Benedict XVI; I hope there isn't someone strategically positioned in the College of Cardinals in the same way.

 

I do remember that I read a very orthodox response he made concerning the issue of homosexuality in the Church shortly before his election.