Suppression of Carmelites

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  1. Mario

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    I've mentioned before that my Great Grandpa Edward and his wife came over to Philadelphia in 1870. They had 13 children, of which 7 died within the first year of birth. I'm not shocked about that. Influenza, ear infections, and the like commonly caused deaths back then among infants. My Grandfather Dan was born in 1887 and had a marvelous faith. In the first decade of the 1900s, he became endeared to the Carmelites, especially the Little Flower. I have a photo of him from 1909 before his trip to Europe standing in front of the Carmel in Philadelphia mentioned in the article below.

    Even my Dad, John, kept in touch with the Carmel, and my Mom bequeathed to me a copy of a Night Prayer that the Carmel made available to benefactors. I pray that prayer virtually every night before climbing in bed.

    So sentimental me is aghast at the seizure of the Carmel mentioned below. I noticed that such a seizure didn't take place under the watch of Archbishop Chaput. I wish he still headed up the diocese.

    I pray, O Lord, for the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church. Have mercy on us!

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/w...e=digest-catholic-2022-12-15&utm_medium=email
     
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    Just a dreadful act
     
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    What a terrible outcome for the Carmel. Who is to be trusted? The wolves are running riot.
     
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    It strikes me as literally Diabolical. The work of the Devil.

    God will act and act quickly to protect His own.

    I would be terrified of being involved in something like this in case God struck me Dead on the spot.

    But these awful people have clearly no Fear of God whatsoever. Imagine going before the Judgement Seat of God having been involved in shutting down one of His very Own Carmels! Terrifying.
     
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    Our Lord Jesus to Alicja Lenczewska on June 6th, 2002:

    The Immaculate Heart of My Mother will conquer. She is the Mother of the Church which is always holy, independently of the sins and betrayals by many of the sons of the Church. I am the holiness of the Church, with My Apostles, My devoted servants who, in their sacrifice of martyrdom, are the foundation, the wall and the dome of My Temple. In [the Church] I am living and true, in Her I nourish My children through My servants, I restore life to them and lead them to the Father’s House.

    My Church suffers, as I have suffered; She is wounded and bleeding, as I was wounded, and as I marked with My Blood the way to Golgotha. My Church is spit upon and profaned, as My Body was spit on and mistreated. She staggers and falls, as I did under the weight of the cross, because She also carries the cross of My children through the years and the ages. And She gets up, She advances toward the resurrection through Golgotha, through the crucifixion of so many saints! But the gates of Hades shall not hold out against Her, because the wisdom and the power of the Divine Spirit guide Her through the heart and the spirit of My vicar on earth and his faithful collaborators.

    The dawn and springtime of Holy Church is coming, even if there is an anti-church and its founder, the antichrist. Even if there are prophets of Lucifer, and his priests, and the obedient army of Free Masonry, and many links and organizations to its services. And even if there is a worldly “Sanhedrin” which directs the church of Satan on earth. Even if they control the governments and their wealth, and it seems that they have poisoned all and are leading the world to its ruin.

    The antichrist is not God, he cannot create anything. He desires only to destroy what God has created. By aping God, he mutilates, he wounds, he deforms. He contaminates with the poison of fear, of sorrow, and of death.

    The anti-church is the opposite of the true Church in its structures, its goals and its activities.

    Instead of life, there is death; instead of truth, there is lying; instead of love, hate; instead of forgiveness, vengeance; instead of liberty, slavery; instead of humility, pride; instead of mercy, cruelty.

    And one can thus continue to list all the spiritual goods included in the Gospel and recognize their opposite, which become the content of the teaching and activity of those who fight My Church, My beloved, My suffering children.

    The path to salvation leads through purification from the world and of each child of this earth from the satanic poison of Original Sin.

    The purification will be offered, it will put in the light of Divine Truth the lies of the sons of darkness. Each man, following his own will, in the face of this Truth, will choose the Kingdom of My Father or else offer himself for eternity to the father of lies.

    And the world will be freed from the spiderweb of the Great Prostitute — of the antichrist’s church and of those of My children who serve it.

    Mary is She through whom the rebirth of My Church is coming, so that It may shine with the full splendor of Divine holiness.

    The present time demands from the children of the Truth heroic faith, hope and love. One must recognize the signs of the times in the light of prayer and of the Word of God, and fulfill the calls of My Mother and those of My beloved servant, John-Paul II: to pray and do penance with the intention of rescuing My lost children.

    [Read] the words of Scripture which relate to Holy Church and to Christians: Jb 30:17-31 (and in a certain way the whole book of Job), 1 Pet 1:1-25 (A certain comparison with the third mystery of Fatima is needed).



    —excerpted from Exhortation of Jesus to Alice Lenczewska (1934-2012), Nihil Obstat by Msgr. Henry Wejman Bishop of Stetin (Poland), 7/20/2015


    Our Lord Jesus to Alicja Lenczewska on June 6th, 2002:

    The Immaculate Heart of My Mother will conquer. She is the Mother of the Church which is always holy, independently of the sins and betrayals by many of the sons of the Church. I am the holiness of the Church, with My Apostles, My devoted servants who, in their sacrifice of martyrdom, are the foundation, the wall and the dome of My Temple. In [the Church] I am living and true, in Her I nourish My children through My servants, I restore life to them and lead them to the Father’s House.

    My Church suffers, as I have suffered; She is wounded and bleeding, as I was wounded, and as I marked with My Blood the way to Golgotha. My Church is spit upon and profaned, as My Body was spit on and mistreated. She staggers and falls, as I did under the weight of the cross, because She also carries the cross of My children through the years and the ages. And She gets up, She advances toward the resurrection through Golgotha, through the crucifixion of so many saints! But the gates of Hades shall not hold out against Her, because the wisdom and the power of the Divine Spirit guide Her through the heart and the spirit of My vicar on earth and his faithful collaborators.

    The dawn and springtime of Holy Church is coming, even if there is an anti-church and its founder, the antichrist. Even if there are prophets of Lucifer, and his priests, and the obedient army of Free Masonry, and many links and organizations to its services. And even if there is a worldly “Sanhedrin” which directs the church of Satan on earth. Even if they control the governments and their wealth, and it seems that they have poisoned all and are leading the world to its ruin.

    The antichrist is not God, he cannot create anything. He desires only to destroy what God has created. By aping God, he mutilates, he wounds, he deforms. He contaminates with the poison of fear, of sorrow, and of death.

    The anti-church is the opposite of the true Church in its structures, its goals and its activities.

    Instead of life, there is death; instead of truth, there is lying; instead of love, hate; instead of forgiveness, vengeance; instead of liberty, slavery; instead of humility, pride; instead of mercy, cruelty.

    And one can thus continue to list all the spiritual goods included in the Gospel and recognize their opposite, which become the content of the teaching and activity of those who fight My Church, My beloved, My suffering children.

    The path to salvation leads through purification from the world and of each child of this earth from the satanic poison of Original Sin.

    The purification will be offered, it will put in the light of Divine Truth the lies of the sons of darkness. Each man, following his own will, in the face of this Truth, will choose the Kingdom of My Father or else offer himself for eternity to the father of lies.

    And the world will be freed from the spiderweb of the Great Prostitute — of the antichrist’s church and of those of My children who serve it.

    Mary is She through whom the rebirth of My Church is coming, so that It may shine with the full splendor of Divine holiness.

    The present time demands from the children of the Truth heroic faith, hope and love. One must recognize the signs of the times in the light of prayer and of the Word of God, and fulfill the calls of My Mother and those of My beloved servant, John-Paul II: to pray and do penance with the intention of rescuing My lost children.

    [Read] the words of Scripture which relate to Holy Church and to Christians: Jb 30:17-31 (and in a certain way the whole book of Job), 1 Pet 1:1-25 (A certain comparison with the third mystery of Fatima is needed).



    —excerpted from Exhortation of Jesus to Alice Lenczewska (1934-2012), Nihil Obstat by Msgr. Henry Wejman Bishop of Stetin (Poland), 7/20/2015
     
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    The "purification" sounds like the Illumination of conscience doesn't it? This is a hopeful yet somber message. It confirms what we have said here. The Church is in the midst of her Passion. Maybe even at the summit of Golgotha. Can the Warning be far off?
     
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    No fear of God at all. After just reading the message you posted of Jesus to the Polish mystic I thought the same thing. These men (and women too I suppose) must have utterly no sense of God's justice. They have lost any faith in the truth of God's existence perhaps? Or at some point made a decision to serve the evil one for pleasure and political power? Chilling.
     
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    When I was young my father used to take us kids up to a Confraternity of the Redemptorists. In those far off days before the Vatican 2 thing had kicked in the,'Red's' , still kept a special vow they had instituted by their Founder and Doctor of the Church St Alphonsus Ligouri to Preach on Hell. Honestly those sermons would have scared you speechless. I remember vividly on priest telling us all to close our eyes and imagine a drop of boiling hot water had fallen on our skin. Then to imagine we had been plunged into vat of boiling hot water. Then to imagine we were placed in the boiling water forever and ever and ever and ever...for all Eternity.

    You can imagine the effect of all this being drummed into a 13 year old boy.:D:D Our Lady of course did the exact same thing to the kids at Fatima. She actually showed them hell as she recently did to the kids at Medugorje.

    A certain fear of hell is a good thing, not a bad thing.

    I am trying to recall when the last time was I heard a Sermon on Hell. You know I don't think it was since I was a child.

    How sad.
     
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    The only place to find those sermons is on Sensus Fidellium sadly.
     
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    When Pope St Paul VI said that , 'The Smoke of Satan has entered into the Church', he certainly knew what he was talking about.

    I was just listening to the last message of Our Lady at Garabandal. It is uncanny how accurate it was given all that we see all around us.

    Our Lady's Message of June 18, 1965

    Since my Message of October 18, 1961 has not been complied with and has not been made much known to the world, I will tell you that this is the last one. Before the chalice was filling now it is overflowing. MANY CARDINALS, MANY BISHOPS, AND MANY PRIESTS ARE ON THE PATH OF PERDITION AND THEY TAKE MANY SOULS WITH THEM. TO THE EUCHARIST, THERE IS GIVEN LESS AND LESS IMPORTANCE. We should avoid the Wrath of God on us by our good efforts. If you ask pardon with your sincere soul God will pardon you. It is I, Your Mother, who through the intercession of St. Michael, wish to say that you amend, that you are already in the last warnings and that I love you much and do not want your condemnation. Ask us sincerely and we will give to you. You should sacrifice more. Think of the Passion of Jesus.
    Conchita Gonzales

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    Did you know that at the last message of Our Lady at Garabandal she could not even give it, it made her so sad? She had to ask St Michael the Arcangel give it instead?

    Conchita was so horrified by it, she could hardly repeat it.

    Yet it is all around us now and is everywhere.

    Everywhere.
     
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    We are "there" for sure but how long it takes for "there" to play out is anyone's guess. It is like being in the eye of a great storm. It is all around us everywhere and yet we are in the midst of a great silence it seems. As if the whole world is holding its breath. As we move out of the eye of the storm then the real havoc begins--why Conchita was terrified.:eek::cry:
    I am sorry about Fr Pavone. Any time a great figure on the right side of things falls it is a devastation to the faithful. I remember Fr Eitenaur. And Fr Corapi. Being a high profile priest is a great danger. To them and to us. It all comes down to obedience in the end. And humility. The hardest thing of all. Again Padre Pio shows us the way.
     
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    Here's info when the Philadelphia Carmel was rejuvanated:


    http://catholicphilly.com/2017/08/n...-carmelites-welcome-10-new-nuns-to-monastery/

    Lord have Mercy on those fostering this suppression!
     
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    I was mistaken. When my Grandfather stood in front of the Carmel in 1909, it was a smaller Carmel, for the above article states this beautiful Carmel did not open until 1910!
     
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    If I were the Devil the first thing I would do is end Contemplative Orders
     
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    He’s getting close by abolishing the Latin mass.
     
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