Why Pope Francis?

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  1. Our Lord to Sulema - July. 24. 2013:

    "[...] Pray also for the Holy Father Francis and Pope Benedict XVI, your Emeritus Pope is very important for all My consecrated. One day, not far away, you will understand why, in these times which are the last, the two popes are together, why God has willed it so. Pray for them, pray also for all your brothers and sisters around the world without exception. "

    According to Juan Antonio Gil and July Wheedbe God forgave the world in the late 2015, giving an extra mercy time to the world. Since the last time it happened was in 1995, according to the truly visionary Juan Antonio Gil we can expect that this current time of mercy will no last too long.

    So I was thinking why God wanted two Popes together? Is it possible that this Pope came out just because God foreseen that the world would deserve a short extra time of mercy? If the answer is yes, Francis is a Pope to gain time, to distract the world in order to be given more time to the church before being brutally persecuted. This great persecution will happen anyway.

    We can see that this time is not for a very orthodox and extremely zealous Pope. It is a time given us to prepare for the persecution or maybe to gain some souls. Pope Francis is acting perfectly to do that. The institutional church already have collapsed. There is no more to do about it. She will disappear and go underground soon, people will live in communities etc. This time was given us to prepare. After that the Eucharist will be celebrated in hidden places. There will no places with the Blessed Sacrament exposed etc.
     
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  2. Virtue

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    Out of curiosity, was there a reason given why "God forgave the world in 2015"? Or even in 1995 for that matter?

    More to the point, the only reason I can ever come up with for having two popes is that they will be the two witnesses of Revelation. Otherwise, it is a mystery to me, which I am okay with. However, the Church Fathers were so sure that Enoch and Elijah would literally come back that I'm not sure these two popes are the two witnesses. I don't know much about Enoch, but neither Pope Benedict XVI nor Pope Francis strike me as being in the spirit of Elijah.
     
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  3. In 1995 was explicit said to Juan Antonio Gil: "due to cenacle of prayers around the world".
    In late 2015 Julie Wheedbe had a vision that angels were about to pour the cup of God's wrath on the earth and it was aborted in the last minute by an order of Jesus.
    In January 2016 in his annual peregrination to Fatima Juan Antonio Gil received a message of Our Lady during a public apparition that said God has had forgive the world. There was no reason in the message.
     
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  4. Interesting. Perhaps the time of real challenge has not as yet arrived for such an Elijah spirit to be demonstrated. The prophets themselves weren't all that anxious to go forth until they were met with the challenge. And early on Francis has been said to have made a difference through his blessing (laying on of hands?) over the young man brought to him within the outdoor audience who was said to have been possessed. Most all faiths/denominations are looking for the literal reappearance of Enoch and Elijah on earth along with their deaths and resurrections. I believe that the Jewish boy, Natan's, NDE included that future happening.

    And at least a thought provoking article (from over a year ago) here:

    Francis, Fatima and the End of the World
    Does the Holy Father know something we don't?

    http://aleteia.org/2015/05/14/francis-fatima-and-the-end-of-the-world/
     
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  5. andree

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    The two popes could be the two witnesses, but I tend to see Our Lady and Jesus, along with other contemporary prophets in that way. Lately, I have come to see the two popes as Our Lord during His passion: while one is suffering martyrdom, the other one is united with him and supporting him through prayer.

    I have also read about God relenting his punishment for a while, no doubt as a result of His Mother's supplications and prayers for us, which have got to be supported by anonymous victim souls and the prayers of the profoundly devout and repentant. Remember Abraham's plea to God to save Sodom and Gomorrah, as he worked his way from 50 righteous souls down to 10: "He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
     
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    This is an interesting message from Sulema. In the book God Speaks Will You Listen the following message gives some detail about the end of Pope Francis' mission as follows:
    10/17/07 "Pope Benedict XVI is the man child elected through the power of the Holy Spirit to rule with a rod of iron. My son, the Pope is my instrument being used to purify my church. His recent proclamations and decisions are setting my church on the narrow road to heaven. Once his mission is accomplished, he will be taken home to be with his Lord and Master. Then, my people you will see the fulfillment of Daniel 12:11: And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days and Apocalypse 12:6: And the woman ( or my church) fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that they should feed her, a thousand two hundred sixty days. My people, prepare yourself for persecution, martyrdom, and fleeing to my refuges".
     
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    A little insight into the "two witnesses", which do not seem to be the two popes, but arrive on the scene during the reign of the Antichrist and give up their lives shortly before the end of the 3.5 years, right before the climax of the 3 day's of darkness.
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen
    10/5/07 "The Antichrist is rising to power as I speak to you. He is hidden until revealed according to my Father’s will. Many natural disasters have and will continue to occur. Then you will experience the warning. After the warning, rejecting my mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beast. You will then experience the abomination of desolation and a fierce persecution of my faithful Catholics by: lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate, and the followers of the antichrist. After my two witnesses battle the forces of Satan, you will see my two witnesses killed and taken up into heaven. Woe to those who are alive during those days. Without my mercy, no flesh would survive. My Father’s wrath will be unleashed on the ungodly and sinner. I will then, with the brightness of my coming, cast the antichrist and his followers into hell forever. As a result, the world will experience 3days of darkness and my creation purified of evil. Nature and my people will be healed.Then my son, the era of peace will take place where my faithful will be resurrected and rewarded in the first resurrection. My faithful will receive glorified bodies. Those who survive the days of tribulation will be able to live out their lives in peace. Once this era of peace is over, Satan will attack my New Jerusalem, the church, as the Prince of Gog in Ezekiel 38, 39. The length of time of the era of peace has not been revealed to mankind".

    Time will be no more, as you know it. The final act of Satan will bring about the end of human history. I will return in the flesh to bring judgment on mankind. I will separate the sheep from the goats. The righteous will inherit eternal life with glorified bodies, and the sinners will be cast into the pool of fire with Satan forever. Purgatory will be emptied at the last judgment. This is a brief outline of events to give you hope and trust in your Savior. The time for the events to begin is now in your human time, not years in the future. Trust in me, my son, and I will bring you to the times of refreshment. Finally, the next several years will be difficult financially and spiritually for you, my son and my remnant, if you do not completely trust in me. This message is from Jesus to my son who has been faithful in a few things. Keep a copy of this message with you and watch as the events take place. Praise my Father, myself, and the Holy Spirit, for revealing these truths to you. For you have been blessed by the Lord. Amen
     
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  8. Carol55

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    Fatima, The only thing that doesn't fit is what happened to the Great Monarch? Did this perhaps change? Praetorian made mention of Our Lady's crown on the Tilma faded maybe this is why, no Great Monarch?
     
  9. From what I've read, the Angelic Pope and the Great Monarch are for the time of entry into the Era of Peace, for teaching and guidance at that time and regulating the adherence to the laws of God as from the beginning intention of His Divine Will and the Church's or Body of Christ on earth's own purification since Christ won't reign on earth but still through His new Church....for the earthly order of peace. Only wish I could remember the link to that!! Suppose that will come either right before or right after the Spirit's "recreation" of man and the earth's "renewal".
     
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    I need to read the prophecies more carefully which relate to the Great Monarch but yes this is going to happen. Some people believe it(he) was to proceed the Anti-Christ but I think that there may be an overlap. From a quick review of these prophecies it might be that the Great Monarch is crucial to the destruction of the AC and his followers which then as you say it(he) would make way for the era of peace.
     
  11. Seems just Jesus can defeat AC. I heard an interesting commentary form Fr. Malachi Martin in a radio interview with Art Bell. He was saying the AC is alive and he's soul is so dominated by satan that no natural force could kill him. Even if god extend the time of mercy for more 100 years this AC will be hidden and alive until the end. I think it is very weird!
     
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    Yes, I have read that he will be killed by Saint Michael or by Christ himself.
    It makes sense to me that we will be divided into 2 groups, those who follow the AC and everyone else. It only makes sense that someone will step up to lead those following Christ (the Catholics) and it may be that the Great Monarch is crucial in destroying the AC's minions. I think that I have read that the 3days of darkness may finish off the AC's minions.
    I started wondering if the Great Monarch was delayed because the consecration of Russia was delayed, I guess we will never know.
     
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    The Great Monarch and the Angelic Shepherd (Pope) work hand in hand during the end of the Chastisement to throw back the invaders from Europe. Afterwards they rule together during the Era of Peace. Then certain prophecies have the Great Monarch laying down his crown and soon afterwards the antichrist comes to power. Of course we all know about the word "soon" :)
     
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