https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2022/09/15/220915a.html This is the "synodal" church, the "church of rupture" with the past, an ever-evolving "faith" in whatever anyone can think up at the moment. Here's a key quote from the document: If we look more closely at this inheritance, what do we see? That the faith was not passed down from generation to generation as a set of ideas to be understood and followed, as a fixed and timeless code. No, our faith was passed on through life, though witnesses who shed the light of the Gospel on different situations in order to illumine and purify them, and to spread the consoling warmth of Jesus, the joy of his saving love and the hope of his promise. By remembering, then, we learn that faith grows through witness. Everything else comes later. This is a call that is addressed to everyone. I want to repeat this: to everyone, to the lay faithful, bishops, priests, deacons, and the consecrated men and women working in various ways in the pastoral life of our communities. May we never grow weary of bearing witness to the very heart of salvation, to the newness of Jesus, to the newness that is Jesus! Faith is not a lovely exhibition of artefacts from a distant past or a museum, but an ever-present event, an encounter with Christ that takes place in the here and now of our lives. So we cannot pass it on by simply repeating the same old things, but by communicating the newness of the Gospel. In this way, faith remains alive and has a future. As I like to say, faith is transmitted through the “mother tongue”. What "newness" can we expect from this "synodal" faith? Look at the recent votes of the German bishops the Synodal Way. The Vatican "Synod on Synodality" will be much the same. Actions traditionally-defined as "mortal sins" will no longer be treated as "sin."
This is an extraordinary, gnostic denial of recorded, historical Reality. It is a dismissal of the Incarnation and the Faith based upon It as something merely made up by men. Instead of this historical reality, we are to accept the subjective, experiential knowledge of a privileged few who claim to know better than all who ever went before them. These ignorant, irrational Gnostics have no comprehension that the past that they dismiss in such a cavalier manner is part of the Eternal Now of their Creator. They are so arrogant and self-assured that it never seems to occur to them that they might be the ones responsible for what are the 'artefacts'.
the German synodal path will be completed in March 2023; so it seems to me that it will be a dishonorable way to "celebrate" the 10th anniversary of the atual pontificate.
The difficulty is that the Devil does not usually do outright lies. He couches everything in half truths. So everything that is said here if you take it a certain way it might be taken as fine. But if you sense the underlying real meaning it is utterly despicable, the very worst kind of heresy. It is the same with Pope Francis. Everything he says if you take it one way it is fine. If you however look to what you suspect is the real underlying meaning it is a total horror picture. It is only recently that Pope Francis and these others have come right out into the open and we can see them in all their total darkness that we can tell for sure. It is a bad sign that they all feel that they do not have to hide anymore. They must be very, very sure of their power. So too must their Father, Satan.
The gnostics who deny that the Faith is something passed down from generation to generation, but is instead a product of their own experience, are placing their own opinions as the ultimate truth. In other words, they are putting themselves up on a pedestal to worship themselves. There is a very salutary article on the idolatory of self in today's Catholic Thing.
It is a form of historical negationism whereby they falsify not only the historical record but also distort the revealed doctrines and dogmas to suit their own worldy, carnal and secular perspectives. The forty bishops in Germany who voted to deny the objective disorder of homosexual acts - if they cannot see this truth then their minds must be full of the filth of the world. Often the ones who cannot see impurity are impure themselves. But, in effect the German Church is now schismatic and outside the Barque of Peter. I often wonder if these people know God at all. 'Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God'.
The German Church is now in apostacy and schism. Pope Francis' deafening silence tells a tale - ‘Synodal Way’ Votes to Establish Permanent ‘Synodal Council’ to Oversee Church and Dioceses in Germany President emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, who was bishop of the Diocese of Rottenburg-Stuttgart from 1989 to 1999, said the German process had invited comparisons to communist structures in the Soviet Union. In a move aimed at achieving what critics have compared to communist councils in the Soviet Union, participants of the German “Synodal Way” on Saturday voted to create a “Synodal Council” that would permanently oversee the Church in Germany. At the Frankfurt meeting on Sept. 10, the controversial suggestion won almost 93% of all votes. Only five bishops rejected the document, CNA Deutsch, CNA’s German-language partner agency, reported. The bishops’ names are a matter of public record because the vote was not by secret ballot — a change of proceedings after bishops blocked a pro-“LGBT” document earlier. Like others arising from the controversial German event, also known as the “Synodal Path,” the proposal has met fierce criticism. In June, Cardinal Walter Kasper, a theologian considered close to Pope Francis, said there could be no “Synodal Council,” given Church history and theology. “Synods cannot be institutionally made permanent. The tradition of the Church does not know a synodal church government. A synodal supreme council, as is now envisaged, has no basis in the entire history of the constitution. It would not be a renewal, but an unheard-of innovation.” The president emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, who was bishop of the Diocese of Rottenburg-Stuttgart from 1989 to 1999, said the German process had invited comparisons to communist structures in the Soviet Union: “It was a political scientist, not a theologian, who recently expressed this notion somewhat strongly, referring to such a Synodal Council as a Supreme Soviet.” The cardinal continued: “Soviet is an old Russian word that means exactly what we call a Rat, a council in German. Such a Supreme Soviet in the Church would obviously not be a good idea. Such a council system is not a Christian idea, but an idea coming from quite a different spirit or un-spirit.” The German theologian and prelate also warned this “would choke off the freedom of the Spirit, which blows where and when it wants, and destroy the structure that Christ wanted for his Church.” Further concerns were raised by a professor of theology from the University of Vienna in June. The dogmatist Jan-Heiner Tück warned that a German “Synodal Council” would transfer leadership authority “from sacramentally ordained persons to bodies, a conversion of power that shows a clear closeness to synodal practices in the Protestant Church in Germany.” How Would It Operate? According to the Frankfurt document, a Synodal Council would first require a “synodal committee” to be formed, which then would deliberate the details of the new council. This committee would consist of the 27 diocesan bishops, 27 members elected by the ZdK, and 10 members jointly elected by them. The committee would be chaired by the president of the bishops’ conference and “the president(s) of the ZdK.” The permanent Synodal Council would function “as a consultative and decision-making body on essential developments in the Church and society,” the German proposal states. More importantly, it would “make fundamental decisions of supra-diocesan significance on pastoral planning, questions of the future and budgetary matters of the Church that are not decided at the diocesan level.” In order to make the council work, “it shall be supported by a permanent secretariat, adequately staffed and financed.” Rejection of Request for Secret Ballot Before the vote within the synodal assembly, five participants on Saturday requested a secret ballot under the statutes. The bylaws state, “In principle, votes shall be taken in public. Exceptions to this are personnel decisions and votes that may be taken by secret ballot at the request of at least five members of the synodal assembly.” In other words, a vote is taken by secret ballot as soon as five members make a corresponding request. However, the moderators of the assembly, with backing from the presidium under Bishop Georg Bätzing and ZdK president Irme Stetter-Karp, had all members of the “Synodal Way” vote on this motion, resulting in its rejection. A motion to examine the legal interpretation, which several participants characterized as questionable, was also rejected by the majority of the synodal assembly. Early Departure of Participants In response to this handling of the motion by organizers, at least two participants declared their intention to depart from the assembly. The eminent theologian and Ratzinger Prize winner Marianne Schlosser, who teaches theology of spirituality in Vienna, told EWTN at the event that she found it, “emotionally speaking, sad, and, objectively speaking, outrageous” how the motion had been handled. She justified the decision to sign and submit the request for a secret ballot in writing by saying the point was “to allow people who are not so aligned with the mainstream or the majority to vote freely on a text or on a bill.” Schlosser herself had taken a public stance against the document. However, organizers had earlier dismissed concerns of pressure on bishops rejecting a pro-“LGBT” document, with president Stetter-Karp labeling bishops even attacking such concerns as “whiny.” Following the fallout on Saturday, Hanna-Barbara Gerl-Falkovitz, a noted philosopher, also announced she would leave early because of how the “Synodal Way” was being handled. Dorothea Schmidt, one of the few participants who regularly expresses clear criticism of texts under discussion, supported the two women’s decision in an interview with EWTN. She accused the leadership of the “Synodal Way” of not tolerating minority opinions and “simply pursuing their own line” in the pursuit of goals that had been “fixed from the outset.” The Catholic laywoman told EWTN: “I find this whole situation highly unbearable.”
Martin Luther was the exact same; a barrel of filth. But I have to say he looks cool compared to these Bishops. Martin Luther never advocated Sexual Perversion as a good thing.
You are correct Padraig. The German bishops who voted for perversion cannot even be considered protestant as most evangelicals hold to Biblical teaching on sexuality. The German bishops are out and out apostates on the road to perdition and taking many souls with them.
They are Incarnate Demons walking. Only fit for the very Depth of Hell. But they have even Higher Demons in the Highest reaches of the Vatican. Purest Free Masonic Heresy with the Pope buying into it and encouraging it.
Here is the latest from one of the "bishops" of the Counterfeit Church (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...-not-continuity-german-bishops-president-says): "We seek continuity. But the shortest definition of religion is and remains ‘interruption,’ as Johann Baptist Metz put it.” Here is what Pope Benedict XVI said in 2005 (https://www.vatican.va/content/bene...ents/hf_ben_xvi_spe_20051222_roman-curia.html): Well, it all depends on the correct interpretation of the Council or - as we would say today - on its proper hermeneutics, the correct key to its interpretation and application. The problems in its implementation arose from the fact that two contrary hermeneutics came face to face and quarrelled with each other. One caused confusion, the other, silently but more and more visibly, bore and is bearing fruit. On the one hand, there is an interpretation that I would call "a hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture"; it has frequently availed itself of the sympathies of the mass media, and also one trend of modern theology. On the other, there is the "hermeneutic of reform", of renewal in the continuity of the one subject-Church which the Lord has given to us. She is a subject which increases in time and develops, yet always remaining the same, the one subject of the journeying People of God. The hermeneutic of discontinuity risks ending in a split between the pre-conciliar Church and the post-conciliar Church. It asserts that the texts of the Council as such do not yet express the true spirit of the Council. It claims that they are the result of compromises in which, to reach unanimity, it was found necessary to keep and reconfirm many old things that are now pointless. However, the true spirit of the Council is not to be found in these compromises but instead in the impulses toward the new that are contained in the texts. Benedict XVI clearly draws the line between the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church (the Church of "continuity") and its enemy the Counterfeit Catholic Church (the Church of "rupture"). These are the two sides in the end times battle. You will soon see certain officials in Rome pledge their allegiance to the Counterfeit church hermeneutic of "rupture." When they do so, those are the people will be apostates or heretics, in schism from the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. It doesn't matter if those people who preach a "Church of Rupture" call themselves "pope," "cardinal," or "bishop, they will be the ones who will be outside of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. They will have excommunicated themselves latae sententiae: Can. 1364 §1. Without prejudice to the prescript of can. 194, §1, n. 2, an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication; in addition, a cleric can be punished with the penalties mentioned in can. 1336, §1, nn. 1, 2, and 3.
In his homily the bishop of Limburg said, “all too surely asserted continuities, i.e., seamless connections according to the motto ‘that has always been so; that has always been believed so; what was wrong yesterday cannot be right today’ ... are frankly suspect.”
Yes. And those "asserted continuities" that have "always been so; that have always been believed"...these are what the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church calls "dogmas of the faith." To reject even one of those de fide dogmas automatically catapults the heretic "outside the Church."
Unfortunately, Benedict's words of hope highlighted above have proven inadequate because on the surface, the interruption of continuity currently has the upper hand in this Pontificate! Lord have Mercy!
Limburg's words deny the Words of God. To him, Revelation must just be bunk. Does this bishop consider that Jesus Christ was 'frankly suspect' when he affirmed the Law? This apostasy is far worse than mere loss of faith. If these people no longer believe, they could quietly leave or even carry on their duties faithlessly. However, they are very determined to wreck the Church rather than pursue another religion. This is what is demonic.
The Freemasons are very subtle. They brought about much apostasy and claimed it was because of Vatican II, so many people end up thinking the Church defected from the faith. Now again, they will teach a rupture from traditional Catholicism and claim it is what Vatican II taught. Those who notice outright apostasy are tempted to reject all popes since Vatican II or go Orthodox. When the false prophet reveals himself everyone will assume he’s pope, and question the Church’s claims about the papacy, since the apparent pope destroyed everything. The original long form of the St. Michael Prayer hints at this. When the shepherd is struck…
