Pope Francis: Hope to be the focus of Jubilee Year 2025.

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  1. Xavier

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    From: https://gulfcoastcatholic.org/pope-francis-says-hope-be-focus-jubilee-year-2025

    "POPE FRANCIS SAYS HOPE TO BE THE FOCUS OF JUBILEE YEAR IN 2025

    Feb 11, 2022 / (CNA) - Pope Francis called on Friday for a “great symphony of prayer” ahead of the Jubilee Year in 2025.

    The pope made the appeal in a Feb. 11 letter to Archbishop Rino Fisichella, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting the New Evangelization.

    “As is customary, the Bull of Indiction, to be issued in due course, will contain the necessary guidelines for celebrating the Jubilee of 2025,” he wrote.

    “In this time of preparation, I would greatly desire that we devote 2024, the year preceding the Jubilee event, to a great ‘symphony’ of prayer.”

    In his letter, the pope explained that a Jubilee Year is “an event of great spiritual, ecclesial, and social significance in the life of the Church.”

    “Ever since 1300, when Boniface VIII instituted the first Holy Year — initially celebrated every 100 years, then, following its biblical precedent, every 50 years, and finally every 25 years — God’s holy and faithful people has experienced this celebration as a special gift of grace, characterized by the forgiveness of sins and in particular by the indulgence, which is a full expression of the mercy of God,” he wrote.

    There are two kinds of Jubilees: “ordinary,” when they fall after a set period such as 25 years, and “extraordinary,” when they mark notable events.

    The celebration in 2025 — the year that marks the 1,700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea — will be the Catholic Church’s first ordinary jubilee since Pope John Paul II presided over the Great Jubilee of the year 2000. The Jubilee of Mercy overseen by Pope Francis in 2015 was an extraordinary jubilee.

    “The Great Jubilee of the year 2000 ushered the Church into the third millennium of her history. St. John Paul II had long awaited and greatly looked forward to that event, in the hope that all Christians, putting behind their historical divisions, could celebrate together the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Jesus Christ, the Savior of humanity,” Pope Francis wrote.

    “Now, as the first 25 years of the new century draw to a close, we are called to enter into a season of preparation that can enable the Christian people to experience the Holy Year in all its pastoral richness.”

    “A significant step on this journey was already taken with the celebration of the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy, which allowed us to appreciate anew all the power and tenderness of the Father’s merciful love, in order to become, in our turn, its witnesses.”

    The 2025 Jubilee will include the opening of the Holy Door in St. Peter’s Basilica. Pilgrims who pass through the door — which is only opened during Jubilee years — can receive a plenary indulgence under the usual conditions.

    The 85-year-old pope said he hoped that the 2025 Jubilee would help to restore “a climate of hope and trust” amid the “doubt, fear and disorientation” caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

    “This will indeed be the case if we are capable of recovering a sense of universal fraternity and refuse to turn a blind eye to the tragedy of rampant poverty that prevents millions of men, women, young people and children from living in a manner worthy of our human dignity,” he wrote.

    The Vatican announced in January that the motto of the Jubilee Year will be “Pilgrims of Hope.”

    Looking ahead to 2024, the pope said: “In a word, may it be an intense year of prayer in which hearts are opened to receive the outpouring of God’s grace and to make the ‘Our Father,’ the prayer Jesus taught us, the life program of each of his disciples.”
     
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    Thanks Xavier for sharing that. I love Pope Francis! He is such a radical disciple of Jesus who is trying to the best of his ability to return us to the Gospel values. I have been saying to my circles of friends for some time that the main thing the world and we need now, is hope as the modern generation has seemed to have lost hope. I am so pleased that 2025 is dedicated to hope. It was truly wonderful when he declared a Year of Mercy and when he consecrated and entrusted Russia and the Ukraine to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart. His putting of Joseph in all forms of the Mass and his devotion to Joseph especially under the devotion of the sleeping Joseph and the year of Joseph was spirit led. His promotion of the devotion to Our Lady as the Untier of Knots has really helped many souls. Our local Church is called St Mary Our Hope.
     
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    Have you paged through the threads in our Pope Francis subpage?

    https://motheofgod.com/forums/pope-francis.40/
     
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    What do you think of Pope Francis and the Pachamama Mass?

    I guess you could say this was an important turning point for many people.
     
  6. Mario

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    Pope Francis' desire for 2024 (from above):

    ...“In this time of preparation, I would greatly desire that we devote 2024, the year preceding the Jubilee event, to a great ‘symphony’ of prayer.”

    Well, if the Miracle does occur in April of that year, I'm sure his desire will be amply fulfilled!:):ROFLMAO:
     
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    there was no Pachamama Mass. This the problem with people getting their information from prejudiced and inaccurate sources. There was a prayer ceremony in which some Brazilian natives had little statues arranged in a tableaux of the Mystery of the Visitation in the artistic style of the American Indians of the Amazon in the honour of Our Lady of the Amazon. Pachmamas are totally different statues and they come from Peru. The word pachamama is Peruvian native for Mother of the World or Universal Mother and thus in enculturating the gospel into that culture there would be nothing wrong or against Catholic teaching in Christianising the concept, this has always been the custom of the Catholic Church. The Church took the artistic traditions of the pagan Greeks and Romans and even their mythological stories and their philosophical ideas and saw in them seeds of the Gospel and Christianised these cultural aspects in order to more effectively evangelise Europe.

    The Catholic Church and Faith is to be enculturated in all cultures not just European. It is this kind of knee jerk reaction against anything new that destroyed the work of Matteo Ricci and the Jesuits in enculturating the Gospel in the Chinese culture and set back the Church for centuries in China. This Pachamama saga was just a total beat up by people that were anti-Francis and looking to fault anything he does. All this attacking the pope just puts people off the Church even more. I have seen so many young people get sucked in by this radical traditionalist rhetoric and then go rad trads and after a year or two they loose their faith and give up the Church altogether. It is not ideology that satisfies but a heart conversion to God in which we become more and more like Christ , his Mother and St Joseph. I think a lot of people are going to get a shock when the Warning occurs and they find out what a great sin they committed objectively by their attitude to the the Vicar of Christ and his teaching.

     
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    "Mother of the World" would be, at best, a reference to Eve.
     
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    You infer a lot in your posts about people's attitudes to Pope Francis - I pray for him in my Rosary. Also I am not a trad. I have never been to a Latin Mass in my life.

    Even a very basic understanding of the region will inform you that Pachamama is a goddess revered by the peoples of the Andes. A fact that you choose to ignore.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachamama

    I worship Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.

    Nor would I ever submit my intellect or will to some pagan deity like they did in that garden ceremony.

    I think Sir you possibly are in for a shock at the time of the warning because you impute bad intentions to people who don't easily buy the incultuarlization nonesense.
     
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    That ceremony in the garden had nothing to do with pachamama which is a title used for a Peruvian Goddess not a Brazilian. How and if the Peruvian Indians want to enculturate the term Pachamama as the Universal Mother in regard to Our Lady or the Church is up to them and their priests and Bishops and the the Vatican and the Pope. Just as it is for the Brazilian Indians if they want to represent the Holy Family and the saints in their own art style. There was no worship of those statues in the Garden, that would be like saying that when we go to Mass we are worshiping the Statues of Jesus, Mary and the saints that are present there. That is a very protestant misconception. Are Catholics who kneel before a statue of Our Lady to pray the Rosary worshiping the statue? How many times have i heard protestants criticise Catholics because they honour Our Lady as the Queen of Heaven when there is a pagan Goddess mentioned in the Bible as the Queen of Heaven.

    I watched that ceremony in the garden and there was no mention of a pagan deity I did hear the women mention Our Lady of the Amazon. By the way I never said you were a trad or anything else. Enculturation goes back to the very beginnings of the Church among the Gentiles, it is hardly a new thing. Of course such enculturation must be done carefully and prayerfully so that it is not syncretism.

     
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    Personally I think if the Miracle doesn't happen in 2023 then it could be another 10 years or so until it happens if it is on an April 13.

     
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    According to Conchita, the Miracle definitely happens in an even year. Glenn Hudson, who has impeccable credentials in this regard, relays accurate facts in his GARABANDAL INFO & ANSWERS thread.:) I do want to say that the facts conclude only that 2024 is a possible year.

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
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    The actions in the garden had clear religious connotations -- they were not just cultural -

    In Inca mythology, Pachamama is a fertility goddess who presides over planting and harvesting, embodies the mountains, and causes earthquakes.

    On October 25th Pope Francis revealed this: "I would like to say a word about the statues of Pachamama that were removed from the church in the Traspontina and were there without idolatrous intentions and thrown into the Tiber. This was first done in Rome, and as bishop of the diocese, I apologize for the people who are offended by this gesture."

    I accept that the Pope at his word that there was no idolartous intentions on his part but the fact that he had to defend himself indicates a degree of self-reflection. But he at the minimum took part in non-idolatrous superstition --

    The Italian Episcopal Conference, prayer best sums up the Amazonian synod and spirit -- "Pachamama, good mother, be propitious to us! Be propitious to! Let the seed taste good, that nothing bad happens, that frost should not disturb it, that it produces good food. We ask you: give us everything! Be propitious to us! Be propitious to us!".

    These native people need to be fully converted to Christ who is the Logos - if they were fully converted they would not be turning to such superstitious earth incantations (And I might add it seems to me the Italian Bishops need conversion too for coming up with such syncretic prayers).

    St Francis of Assisi in his 'Canticle of the Sun' show the proper attitude of the believer in relation to creation for it is a canticle of praise of God to thank Him for His creation. We do not give praise to creation in and of itself.

    Fr Mitch Pawca best sums it up for me -

     
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    I was shown the face of Pope Francis in prayer this morning. I always had the very lowest opinion of that man that any one person could ever had for another. But when I saw his face in prayer I confess I was totally shocked.

    I have never, ever seen a more evil, wicked, malicious face in all my worse nightmares.

    It was a wake up call to me.

    I never dreamed that a human being could be so evil.

    Consumed by it.

    It was like staring into the face of hell itself.
     
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    We are dealing with someone totally, totally given to evil.

    Someone who walks in hell, even before treading there.

    Stalin, Hitler, Nero , Buonaparte., Mao Tse Tung. .. nothing compares ..we have never seen the equal... it is amazing that the ground does not catch fire at his feet....

    ..totally..totally evil...

    I suspected as much, but now I know...

    ..do not be deceived ..we are dealing with the absolute bottom line in wickedness..it does not come any worse than him...
     
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    Thank you Br. Gilbert for bringing up the subject of China. My son, Fr. Benjamin, has brought to my attention the infighting in China between the Jesuits and Franciscans that took place at the beginning, with the Friars taking a much more anti-view of the Chinese customs, so it is good to be cautious and not overact in our present times, too. However, a picture does paint a thousand words and when Francis and the Synod delegates formed a procession bringing pachamama from St Peter’s to the Synod Hall, with the statue carried in a boat on the shoulders of bishops, it was too much for me!

    I would also say that the the apparent current missionary thrust of upholding acculturation as a essential component has not borne fruit. When a missionary named Fr. Corrado Dalmonego almost boastfully claims there has been no baptisms in 53 years of mission work, something has gone terribly wrong. This can occur only when a missionary has embraced indifferentism and fails to uphold Jesus Christ as the true and only Savior. If this missionary is to be held up in any way as truly Catholic, then the Church is heading in the wrong direction.

    https://www.tfp.org/a-mission-that-...ngelization-model-of-the-pan-amazonian-synod/

    Mary, Queen of Angels, pray for us!
     
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    To quote Fr. Pawca, from the video:

    “Knock it off! We’re not stupid. We’re not! This is an idol!

     
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    Of course it is.

    Worse it was in a perverse contortion of the Blessed Virgin.

    Nor is that the worse, they are still at it in Rome.

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    And when a religious buys the fallacious Vatican narrative hook, line and sinker, I really question the religious in question.

    I can recognize and admire those souls who, out of holy naïveté, accept the words of their superiors at face value. But in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary one must decide where holy naïveté ends, and blameworthy naïveté begins.

    In other words,

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    It was too much for me too. The October 2019 scandalous Pachamama event at the Vatican was a serious offense to Our Lord that ushered in the terrible chastisement of the 2020 Covid pandemic, and lockdowns that deprived the faithful of Mass, and the Holy Eucharist. :cry: Sr. Agnes of Akita was warned by an angel on October 6, 2019 to "put on ashes and pray a repentant rosary every day". There are no coincidences.
     
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