Daniel 12

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  1. Padrepiofan

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    I don't understand Daniel 12, it literally counts down the days from when the mass has been put a stop to, till then end of the antichrist reign.

    But if no one knows the day or the hour of the lord's return, how do they count down the days? Makes zero sense
     
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    So.. Starting at the Beginning (as opposed to the End) of the countdown.. wrt: "it literally counts down the days from when the mass has been put a stop to"?

    The WHEN Date - of the "when the mass has been put a stop to" .. begins the "countdown".

    When one knows the When Date - it should be? easier to calculate the Return date, yes?

    And in that manner - it makes sense; for, Scriptures are the Word of God..
     
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    Does anyone know the Catholic interpretation of this?? Surely the end of the antichrist reign, Jesus comes back, but how do they know the number of days. Makes zero sense
     
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    We will still have the preaching of the two martyrs witnesses against the antichrist (at the beginning of his reign), if there is preaching of the gospel it is because there is still a chance of conversion; if there is conversion, it is through the merits of Christ's sacrifice, which is updated in an unbloody way in each Mass.
     
  5. Padrepiofan

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    But what does Daniel 12 mean?
     
  6. Frankly

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    The Book of Daniel is OK; there's no problems with Daniel.
    Any thoughts otherwise could connect with your mis-understanding.
    God knows the day and hour of Messiah Jesus' Return.
    And Nothing in Daniel 12 speaks of (including the date thereof) 'when the mass has been put a stop to' (whatever that's supposed to denote) ..
    Ergo, that too would contribute to not knowing.

    Speaking of AntiChrist, (who's been said that he shall arrive in an up and coming 3rd Temple in Jerusalem, Israel) Daniel 11: speaks of him.

    Daniel 11 The King Who Exalts Himself

    36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.

    40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.



    The End Times - Daniel Chapter 12 - (note... No dates by which to calculate today - the day and hour of Messiah Jesus' Return - are noted)

    “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”

    5 Then I, Daniel, looked, and there before me stood two others, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. 6 One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?”

    7 The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed.”

    8 I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?”

    9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

    11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

    13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”


     
  7. Padrepiofan

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    So people in sin cannot be forgiven
     
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    Speaking of AntiChrist, (who's been said that he shall arrive in an up and coming 3rd Temple in Jerusalem, Israel) Daniel 11: speaks of him.

    Makes no sense..
    Plus it's untrue.. barring those who refuse to Repent of Serious Sin - such as AntiChrist and his minions..
    In another thread you've mentioned that you're on medication.. which is noted as contributing to your mis-understandings..
     
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    But it said that sinners will have to live with their eternal guilt
     
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    Speaking of AntiChrist, (who's been said that he shall arrive in an up and coming 3rd Temple in Jerusalem, Israel) Daniel 11: speaks of him.

    Yes.. such as those who refuse to Repent of Serious Sin - such as AntiChrist and his minions..

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