I've never heard of this prophet (thanks, Jackie!) but the messages I've read so far are profound. There's a note on the website that Cletus died in August of this year. A Story of Cletus Schefers I was born and lived on a farm west of Minneapolis, Minnesota. I am the oldest of 7 children. I went to a one-room schoolhouse that had all 8 grades, 26 children were in the classroom. I talked mostly German at home and for one hour in school. I would walk in the fields and look at the plants, and wondered how God made them and made them grow. I also wondered how God could help me make them grow better, and how to stop weeds from growing. When I turned 19, my dad had me get a job off the farm. At that time, my brothers were able to help my dad on the farm. In August of 1956, while sitting on my bed looking out the window, I saw the clouds open up. There sat God the Creator, holding a staff in his right hand, and his left hand raised up in the air. I did not know what this all was. I could not talk about it. For many, many, many years, I would think of this vision, and what I should do with it. But life went on. I was a mechanic for 19 years. After that, I operated heavy equipment until I retired at 62. I was married in 1960 and have 4 children. I am still married. In February 1983, I wanted to find out more about God. How can I find this answer? I looked and looked for 4 years. I could not read or write. I was told by people to ask Jesus's mother, and to ask St. Jude. I did not know how to ask St. Jude. I asked for wisdom, because it sounded good. I prayed to God and asked St. Jude to pray for me. In less than one year, I could read, but not as other people read. Then I could not get enough to read. God guided me as to what books I should read. About 1990 or so, God infused the Bible in me. He gave it to me little by little, for a number of years. I could not remember what he gave me. I don't know what I know, but God brings the words out of my mouth when they are needed. He calls me his megaphone. I had 3 healings from God. The first time it was 2 ribs, then the right leg, and the last time was the left knee. In September2001, the Lord asked me to let my hair and beard grow. I have yet to cut my hair or beard, except at my upper lip. Now it has passed the 5-year mark, and my hair seems to stay shoulder length, and not get any longer. Long hair was a Nazarene tradition, which is what Jesus and Sampson were. In November 2001, the Lord told me I could reveal my vision (after 45 years). In May of 1993, the first time I prayed with someone, God healed that person. Now, 13 years later, the Lord has healed a lot of people phsically, and spiritually. All I do for them is to pray for them. The vision picture was painted on March 3, 2006. It was blessed by a faithful priest.
from Cletus Schefers: 01/28/2011 Verne here is the interpretation of my message to you. I the Lord God will shake the heavens and earth both physically and spiritually because of the sins of this generation. My children are not responding to the ordinary means of salvation given to mankind: my church and the sacraments. The Lord has sent his mother as a messenger who has warned mankind. I have been shaking the earth for many years now. Few souls realize the natural events transpiring are to wake up my children to the eternal salvation. Changes in the weather, earthquakes, diseases, and food supplies are permitted by my divine will to wake up my children. Many are not able to discern the signs of the times do to their sins and the deception of Satan. Therefore, I the Lord will remove the deception and allow my children to see the truth. An increase in the physical shaking of the earth will take place until the warning. The warning is the spiritual shaking. During the warning, all of mankind will know the truth, the state of their souls, and the particular judgment of their soul at that moment. My mercy and justice allow this warning as one of the last mercies to this sinful generation. The response of mankind to the warning will determine the severity of the chastisement, after the warning. The warning will fulfill the prophecies of: Blessed Anna Maria Taiga, Lourdes, Fatima, Divine Mercy, and Garabandal. My church will not go underground and the abomination of desolation will not occur, until after the warning. I need my church to bring my graces to my children, after the warning. Confessionals must be open for my children to receive the pardon and forgiveness for their sins. Remember, I am a God of mercy. Those who harden their hearts to my mercy and graces will pave the road for the events prophesied in Apocalypse 12, 13, and 14. I warned the people of Noah’s day and I will warn the people of this generation. If mankind does not repent of their sins, you will see the following events, after the warning. The persecution of the Holy Father, causing him to flee Rome and go into hiding. The Holy Mass becoming protestantized with the abomination of desolation taking place. My true church being forced into underground masses with my children being fed my Holy Eucharist many times by my angels. A world wide persecution of my faithful. My faithful being called to flee to my refuges. A false church being instituted with a false leader or antipope. Mankind attempting to re-institutionalize the tower of Babel, with a one world government, which will control the world’s currency with the mark of the beast. An antichrist who will lead this revolt against God and who will proclaim the Masonic doctrine that all religions are equal and that the kingdom of God is a materialistic earthly kingdom. This will cause my eternal judgment to descend on this earth and cast the antichrist and his followers into the abyss of hell for all eternity. Satan and his demons will also be locked away for 1000 years as described in Apocalypse 20:1-3. Then, the earth will go through 3 days of darkness just as my son was in the tomb for 3 days. My creation will then be renewed and the seventh day or era of peace will begin. These events are written in my Holy Scriptures. I bring messages to my people because my people do not read my Holy Scriptures. The severity and sequence of events will be determined by the response of mankind to my mercy and justice. Without repentance, these events will increase and take place in this generation. These words are a reminder that God’s will, will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Be like Noah and enter my ark of refuge and enter the seventh and eighth days of creation. Verne, this understanding will give you peace this day and the days ahead. Amen http://www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org/index.html
I just listened to these three messages from Cletus - profound instruction for the church in America: Three Messages Message 05/15/2008
Update: I'm reading the online book of messages. Starting in 2006, Verne Dagenais started publishing messages. He's much more articulate than Cletus. Jackie, have you contacted them?
From 6/27/07: ... Now let me clear up an area of confusion for you. Daniel 12:11. And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days. The continual sacrifice is the mass and the abomination of desolation is when the doctrine of the mass is changed in my church- the Roman Catholic Church. If you study church history, this doctrine of the mass is the one Satan has tried to destroy. From the time of the early church until now. Please read the next comments carefully. In my present church, there is much confusion regarding Vatican II. This is from Satan, not from me. Answer me a question: if the Holy Father calls an ecumenical council with all the bishops of the world and the Holy Spirit is guiding the church, how can that council be of Satan? It was not. My people do not understand the working of my Holy Spirit. Remember, I told you to beware of false prophets who come to you in the clothing of sheep. Satan has caused schism in my church, by allowing false interpretations to abound concerning Vatican II. My words do not change. I am going to give you a clue to share with my people. Satan hates the doctrine of the mass and the doctrines concerning my Blessed Mother. These are the two areas he has been trying to destroy. The Vatican II Council reaffirmed both of these doctrines. This council was not convened by hell, but by my Holy Spirit. A council or a Pope who destroys and denies my mass and my Blessed Mother’s privileges is from hell. This is how you can recognize the abomination of desolation. A false prophet or anti pope will proclaim the protestant doctrine of the mass to be correct. This is the one teaching that will change. The rest of my churches teachings can stay the same. Satan knows how to deprive my children of everlasting life, deprive my children of my presence. This is how the man of sin, the son of perdition will sit in the temple of God. Reference II Thessalonians 2:4-10. He will attempt to lead my people to deny my presence in the eucharist and to teach the mass is only a symbol. This is antichrist. This will bring the wrath of God on the children of disobedience. This will cause the unleashing of the bowls of divine justice. My sacrifice of the mass daily holds back my Father’s justice. Luke 18:8. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? Will I find any of my children, who I recognize with my life in them? Will there be faith left in my holy sacrifice? These are the questions which need to be pondered. My son, a false Christian church will be forced on the people. A gospel of prosperity and a make you feel good gospel will be preached. My churches can be filled with people, but the churches will be dead because I am not there. Without my presence in the churches, God does not dwell in the churches. Then, these sheep who hear my voice will be forced to worship in underground churches where I will be present. This truly is the abomination of desolation and antichrist. Then I will come with the brightness of my coming, destroy this false church, and restore my church according to my will. Then you will see an era of peace. A Eucharistic era of peace where I will reign in the hearts and mind of my people in the holy Eucharist. You must believe all these words I am teaching you and the teachings of my church or you will not enter my era of peace. Ponder these words or I may say to: I NEVER KNEW YOU. The words of the Lord. I bless you Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. AMEN.
kathy k, If these messages aren't true, then which ones are? What I like about God Speaks Will You Listen messages, all the way through they explain the end times using Scripture. And I'll look for it, the exact term, if you don't receive the most Holy Eucharist, Our Lord said you remain a baby Christian. There is another link to these messages where you can type in a word or subject and at this link, it will find it in these messages, GSWYL. I'll search for that too.
I can't remember it exactly, I'll find the term that I was talking about.... But here is that other link to the messages and cool, at the top of the page there is a magnifying glass, you can search for words, terms in GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN. http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen I used the word search, I remembered the GSWYL explanation on the "abomination of desolation" because you see the wondering on its meaning and the discussion of the A.O.D. all the time. People disagree, especially non-Catholic Christians.
From Cletus Schefers comes the theory of substitution which used to be catholic teaching. I believe in it. Has it changed since V2? This is whyhe has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Manyteach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach theantichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitutethe abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from humanunderstanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. Butthe complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple wasrent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. Mysacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all thenations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nationof Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifyinggrace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anitchrist. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by anantipope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy RomanCatholic Church.
The term wasn't "baby Christians." And the "abomination of desolation" is explained. 11/06/07 pg. 97 + 98 ...After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America,and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely.My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the anti-christ to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies pg. 98 with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does not partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow.Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the anti-christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti-christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti-pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the anti-christ. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled. ...
picadillo, Forgive me, I post away and now just saw you shared the above too. I am not familiar, what does "theory of substitution" mean?
No. I stopped looking at the messages for awhile and sharing them because when you copy and paste the messages, the words, some of them, run together. Don't laugh, I thought, is this a sign they're not true? Silly, they line up with other current private revelation.
Precisely what he says about the old covenant being torn in two at His death and the Israelites and covenant replaced with the catholic church. That the old covenant is no longer valid and Israel is the catholic church.
I read all the messages yesterday, and was convicted of many things I've felt in my heart. There is something in the messages to support and also convict those who've taken both sides of arguments on this forum. Here's something that really struck me: 10/28/06 A.M. ...You have a tendency to search and read the teachings of other so- called prophets. Remember a true prophet teaches 100% of my truth no error. If you compare any messages and teachings with my Holy word and my church and they are not in agreement, then that teaching is not from the Holy Trinity. God is not the author of confusion. I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to the Father but by me. No one enters heaven without embracing all my truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in heaven. Everyone in heaven knows the truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation. For it caused division in my church. Here is an example. If you plant a seed and do not water it, it will not grow. But if you water it, it will germinate and in the midst of a garden of flowers a weed can sprout. Many weeds can destroy gardens. So it is with my church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in my priests, like Martin Luther. Instead of rebuking these doubts, he let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew, and confusion and schism came in my church. This was not my will. Let me ask you a question how much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less then 100% of my truth will cause confusion. There is only one source of truth in the universe, the Holy Trinity, anything else comes from Satan. Here is a rebuke to you. When you read and study protestant ministers and prophets, who do not teach 100% of my truth, where is there source of truth coming from? It is not from Jesus. It is from their own imagination or Satan. Remember Satan loves to sow confusion. He is infinitely smarter than humans and he knows the truth. His goal is to deceive mankind. When you read a prophet who denies my church, blasphemes my blessed mother, and profanes my eucharist, why listen to that prophet, for that teaching comes from one place, the pit of hell. That is not to say I do not work through protestant ministers, because any words of mine are truth. I desire all men to be saved. But many are held in ignorance of not their own fault. But you are different. You have been presented with the whole truth. So why allow doubt and confusion to arise in your mind? If you allow Satan a small seed of doubt, he can make it grow and cause you confusion and even loss of faith. Remember you will be held accountable on the day of judgment to a higher standard for you have the fullness of truth found in the Catholic church.
Also, I think it was on one of the three audio messages that he talks about our support for the enemy by enjoying t.v. shows and movies that glorify sin or blaspheme God. I rarely watch t.v. and have seen maybe 3 movies in the last year. Just the other day I was watching Homeland and was shocked by how often the Lord's name is taken in vain. I prayed every time it happened, but in the messages we're told to get up and walk out; not to participate in any entertainment that we wouldn't feel comfortable watching with the Blessed Mother and Jesus. The messages also warn against sensationalism, and giving our attention to media and messages instead of seeking direction from the Lord and His Church.
Thank you for explaining. I add a comment. 11/6/07 GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN "Many teach the anti-Christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. But Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At My death, the veil, in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrifice covenant was replaced by the New Covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for My people's sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations are blessed. My nation of Israel is My church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of My Church through sanctifying grace."... (those people who know of, those who discover because they didn't know, shall accept the Truth, God's Church at the time of the Great Warning, then will confess their sins to get in the state of "sanctifying grace.")
I am going backwards. We did not have cable for five years, then my husband purchased a technology called Boxy Box, you can view some cable and local television. I find myself watching some of it to please my family (college age kids included). I do enjoy Downton Abbey. Another and telling, after a couple of episodes I was drawn in by the writing while at the same time feeling convicted and dead. I will not watch Breaking Bad episodes again. They sell Breaking Bad and my kids try to point out, it is a moral play. Nothing good comes from Meth. We were/are better off with no access.
kathy k, I like your enthusiasm. The messages are quite something, they have to be true. Repeating I guess, GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN is a Catholic story, with Scripture given along all the way through them. These messages confirm the faith and Catholic private revelation.
I knew it - Luther was wrong. I never understood how he could ditch the Blessed Sacrament and I do not like how Protestants dismiss our Blessed Lady. Spiitual babies. I thin these messages are wonderful. I will have to Pray more, but to read that really it does come down to the Church, the Mass, our Most Holy Mother is great.
This thread makes s much sense to me. If I survive, I would love to live in the Eucharastic Era of Peace. Even the words make me feel better. I hope God keeps me on the right path when things get really bad and that I dont go off on the wrong one.
Cletus seems fine. But I am always careful about anyone anywhere who talks about a coming false Pope or Council. Dodgy ground. It appears to go against the Doctrine if Infallibility. Of course a false Pope could do as he liked, but then he would not be really pope.
