Life on Other Worlds?

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    I don't think physical life on other worlds is a slam dunk. The forces that must come together to support life are astronomical. Planets like ours are the rarest of unicorns.


    However, I would more surprised to learn there is not life on other planets than there is. On Earth alone, God seems to enjoy variety. Variety of climates, variety of terrain, plants, animals, people. I think it's reasonable to speculate there might be other planets with a variety of life as well.
     
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    If so, where does the incarnation fit into all of this? The Second Person of the Trinity is a man from Earth. Seems humanity has a very special place in the universe.
     
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    Read the rest of the post. Mankind is the summit of creation
     
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    This is private revelation and not confirmed by the Church.

    There is nothing in the Bible about life elsewhere. Sacred Tradition and Scripture reveal that God created pure spiritual beings, the angels and human beings who are both material and spiritual.

    If God had created other beings I am sure this would be part of God's revelation to man.

    One can speculate on these things of course, but the way the world is I would suggest we would be better off praying the rosary for peace.
     
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    AGREE
     
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    Like so much else that clamors for our attention, I believe it is one more distraction.
     
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    You beat me to it sister maybe the holy spirit is whispering. I was about to post Christ lived Christ died Christ rose again, everything else is a distraction.
     
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    I disagree that God would be a small and limited Creator if life is not on other planets. I'm not going to rule out that there is some kind of lesser life than humans out there, but I think God created the rest of the Solar System to A. show His infinite nature, and B. to be enjoyed and explored for eternity by us in our glorified bodies. I believe there is an infinite amount of surprises out there waiting to be discovered after the creation of the New Heavens and New Earth, and we need to be in our glorified state to be able to experience them.

    Just my own thoughts, though.
     
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    Amen!!!
     
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    LOL LOL
    I used to listen to this radio show (Dr Demento)and he always played that song. SO SO funny. ("Star trekking across the universe/we keep going forward cuz we can't find reverse.":p:D
     
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    My hubby always wondered what the "four living creatures" were around the throne in heaven.. the thought was maybe they were other life forms o_O
     
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    That's usually interpreted as the gospels, I think.
     
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    Apparently of of the visionaries in Medugorje asked Our Blessed Mother a Direct Question on this, if there were life on other worlds, to which the Gospa replied,

    'That is none of your concern'.

    Which was very direct. As we look at Scripture, the Teachings of the Church, the writings of the Saints and the Fathers of the Church this all ties in with Mary's answer, that it is none of our concern, for heaven is silent.

    At the moment I am more concerned it there will continue to be life on Earth.:D:D

    At least we have Our Blessed Lady's promise on that, that it will all end very well indeed.:)

    I think as someone mentioned this question is a distraction. It is a bit like going up a Cul De Sac, it does not count to helping us work out our Salvation in fear and trembling. It is none of our concern.
     
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    I used to love Science Fiction when I was young. There was one very devout Catholic writer I have been thinking about at the moment, he wrote on a post Nuclear war world, life in a Catholic Monastery.

    A Canticle for Leibowitz
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    A Canticle for Leibowitz
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    First edition dust jacket
    Illustration by George Sottung
    Author Walter M. Miller Jr.
    Cover artist George Sottung
    Country United States
    Language English
    Genre Science fiction
    Published October 1959 (J. B. Lippincott & Co.)
    Media type Print (hardback & paperback)
    Pages 320
    OCLC 1451434
    Followed by Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman
    A Canticle for Leibowitz
    is a post-apocalyptic social science fiction novel by American writer Walter M. Miller Jr., first published in 1959. Set in a Catholic monastery in the desert of the southwestern United States after a devastating nuclear war, the book spans thousands of years as civilization rebuilds itself. The monks of the Albertian Order of Leibowitz preserve the surviving remnants of man's scientific knowledge until the world is again ready for it.

    The novel is a fix-up of three short stories Miller published in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction that were inspired by the author's participation in the bombing of the monastery at the Battle of Monte Cassino during World War II. The book is considered one of the classics of science fiction and has never been out of print. Appealing to mainstream and genre critics and readers alike, it won the 1961 Hugo Award for best science fiction novel, and its themes of religion, recurrence, and church versus state have generated a significant body of scholarly research. A sequel, Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman, was published posthumously in 1997.
     
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    Plot summary[edit]
    Background[edit]
    After 20th-century civilization was destroyed by a global nuclear war, known as the "Flame Deluge", there was a violent backlash against the culture of advanced knowledge and technology that had led to the development of nuclear weapons. During this backlash, called the "Simplification", anyone of learning, and eventually anyone who could even read, was likely to be killed by rampaging mobs, who proudly took on the name of "Simpletons". Illiteracy became almost universal, and books were destroyed en masse.

    Isaac Edward Leibowitz, a Jewish electrical engineer working for the United States military, survived the war and sought refuge from the mobs of the "Simplification" in the sanctuary of a Cistercian monastery, all the while surreptitiously searching for his wife, from whom he had become separated in the war. Eventually concluding that his wife was dead, he joined the monastery, took holy orders (becoming a priest), and dedicated his life to preserving knowledge by hiding books, smuggling them to safety (known as "booklegging"), memorizing, and copying them. He approached the Church for permission to found a new monastic order dedicated to this purpose. With permission granted, he founded his new order in the desert of the American Southwest, where it became known as the "Albertian Order of Leibowitz". The Order's abbey is located in a remote desert in Utah, possibly near the military base where Leibowitz worked before the war, on an old road that may have been "a portion of the shortest route from the Great Salt Lake to Old El Paso". Leibowitz was eventually betrayed and martyred. Later beatified by the Roman Catholic Church, he became a candidate for sainthood.

    Six hundred years after his death, the abbey still preserves the "Memorabilia", the collected writings and artifacts of 20th-century civilization that survived the Flame Deluge and the Simplification, in the hope that they will help future generations reclaim forgotten science.

    The story is structured in three parts: "Fiat Homo", "Fiat Lux", and "Fiat Voluntas Tua". The parts are separated by periods of six centuries each.

    Fiat Homo ("Let There Be Man")[edit]
    In the 26th century, a 17-year-old novice named Brother Francis Gerard is on a vigil in the Utah desert. While searching for a rock to complete a shelter from the sun, Brother Francis encounters a vagrant Wanderer, apparently looking for the abbey, who inscribes Hebrew on a rock that appears to be the perfect fit for the shelter. When Brother Francis picks up the rock, he discovers the entrance to an ancient fallout shelter[a] containing "relics", such as handwritten notes on crumbling memo pads bearing cryptic texts resembling a 20th-century shopping list. He soon realizes that these notes appear to have been written by Leibowitz, his order's founder. The discovery of the ancient documents causes an uproar at the monastery, as the other monks speculate that the relics once belonged to Leibowitz. Brother Francis's account of the Wanderer, who ultimately never turned up at the abbey, is also greatly embellished by the other monks amid rumours that he was an apparition of Leibowitz himself; Francis strenuously denies the embellishments, but equally persistently refuses to deny that the encounter occurred, despite the lack of other witnesses. Abbot Arkos, the head of the monastery, worries that the discovery of so many potentially holy relics in such a short period may cause delays in Leibowitz's canonization process. Francis is banished back to the desert to complete his vigil and defuse the sensationalism.

    Many years later, the abbey is visited by Monsignors Aguerra (God's Advocate) and Flaught (the Devil's Advocate), the Church's investigators in the case for Leibowitz's sainthood. Leibowitz is eventually canonized as Saint Leibowitz – based partly on the evidence Francis discovered in the shelter – and Brother Francis is sent to New Rome to represent the Order at the canonization Mass. He brings with him the documents found in the shelter, and an illumination of one of the documents on which he has spent years working, as a gift to the Pope.

    En route, he is robbed by "The Pope's Children" – an affectionate name for outcast genetic mutants who are the descendants of fallout victims – and his illumination is taken, though he negotiates with the robbers to keep the original blueprint on which the illuminated copy was based. Francis completes the journey to New Rome and is granted an audience with the Pope.[c] Francis presents the Pope with the remaining blueprint, and the Pope comforts Francis by giving him gold with which to ransom back the illumination; however, Francis is killed during his return trip by the Pope's Children, receiving an arrow in the face. The Wanderer discovers and buries Francis's body. The narrative then focuses on the buzzards who were denied their meal by the burial; they fly over the Great Plains and find much food near the Red River until a city-state, based in Texarkana, rises.
     
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    I have no problem with the idea of life on other planets, but from the moment intelligent life forms are discussed it creates tremendous confusion for me, as it is difficult to imagine how Christ's plan of redemption applies to these beings.
     
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    This is perhaps why Our Blessed Mother advises us to drop the subject. She doesn't want us to have a headache.:):)

    Matthew 6:34


    Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
     
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    Well hold onto your hat the mars rover is due to go walk about some time this week ..wouldn't be surprised we are fed a big big bunch of cow dung over the next few months.
     

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