Wanted: your thoughts on a dream.

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  1. TheDeuce

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    Hi Crew!

    OK, as I shared in my intro in the 'Welcome To New Members' section I was turned onto this forum by Glenn Hudson after he reached out to me from his Garabandal Facebook page. I noted that I was seeking some guidance on an issue I was facing.

    Here's the issue:

    Back in January 2022 I had a dream. I won't share all of the details since, to be candid, they're rather embarrassing. The key detail that I came away with is that "June 22" (no year given) was a date that I should investigate, being of some importance. So I did a great deal of Googling and came up empty. No major feast day, none of the Saints who are recognized on that day jumped out at me, nothing.

    But I did find one interesting coincidence. On June 22, 2022 all of the naked-eye planets were going to be visible in the southern sky (from a northern hemisphere perspective). Not only that - they were going to be lined up in order of their distance from the sun! From east to west: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn with the moon being between Mars and Jupiter. Being a backyard astronomer I downloaded and fired up a sky simulator - Stellarium. Sure enough, the program confirmed what I read:

    Planets as at June 22, 2022.jpg

    OK, kinda cool. But not exactly the sign of our Lord in the sky!

    I then wondered how often this kind of alignment occurred. I churned backwards through time in Stellarium and didn't find the same presentation of planets through the centuries. But I DID find one occasion wherein the naked-eye planets were lined up, in order of their distance from the sun - but in the opposite order and around the SUN rather than the moon. From west to east: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn - with the sun being between Venus and Mars:

    Past planet alignment without date.jpg

    So it looks like the June 22, 2022 sky was pretty much the opposite of sky of this past date. The planets lined up in order from east to west gathered around the moon vs. the planets lined up in order from west to east gathered around the sun. Opposite indeed!

    Now, what was the date in the past where the planets were lined up from west to east around the sun?

    Friday, April 3, AD 33.

    The almost certain day our Lord was crucified.

    (Check out https://www.ncregister.com/blog/7-c...sus-died-the-year-month-day-and-hour-revealed to see the evidence demonstrating why April 3, AD 33 is the most likely date of the crucifixion).

    Now I don't know what to make of this, if anything. Just an odd coincidence? Some sign demonstrating the beginning and end of a defined period of time? I dunno - and one of the reasons I joined this forum was to share this story and solicit the thoughts of my fellow faithful.

    Any and all thoughts are welcome!


    Glory to Jesus Christ!



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    Thank you for joining and sharing this account. I tend to agree with how you have interpreted it.
     
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    I had noticed this connection before and it is startling.

    St Teresa of Avila gives good advice with special graces like inspired dreams. They repeat to give reinforcement.

    For instance St Catherine Labour's dreamt of St Vincent Dr Paul four times in joining his Order.

    See if the dream repeats a few times.
     
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    Although sometimes a dream can be so strong and vivid it does not need to repeat.
     
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    One characteristic of my 'spiritual dreams' (as my priest terms them) is my condition upon awakening. Normally when I wake up it's a slow process whereby I sloth my way out of bed and slowly re-enter the world of the awake. But when I have a spiritual dream I wake up fully energized and good to go. You know the old urban legend about how we only use ten percent of our brains at a given time? I know that's not the case but if it was my state upon awakening after a spiritual dream leaves me no doubt that I was using 100% + of my brain. All synapses firing full speed ahead!

    With that said - I almost never have the same dream twice. One and done.



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    That is really neat! I would say...a dream that is important for more than just you would probably have more of an obvious meaning to it. A message of some kind that would mean something to others. Generally my spiritual dreams like that have some sort of purpose just for me or my family. And the reason for them is not always clear right away...but the dream remains in the back of my mind, just as vivid as ever, until something happens later that I pretty quickly realize explains the meaning or reason for the dream. Or the dream influences me to do something.

    For instance, my repeat dreams of demons trying to prevent my 4th child being born caused me to plan a consecration of this child to St. Michael. That consecration is coming up on May 8, and the date was determined in a very interesting little miraculous way for both my husband and me separately. So I truly believe God wants him consecrated to St. Michael for some reason.

    So I would pray about it, but there's no need to overthink it. If God has a purpose for that dream, He will show you eventually.
     
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    One other interesting occurrence on April 3, AD 33 was discovered by a researcher named Miguel Antonio Fiol. He too ran a solar system simulator for April 3, 33 but he then changed the viewpoint from the earth's surface to a point high above the solar north pole. In other words he looked down at the planets and the sun from high above the sun.

    Here's how the planets appeared from that high in the heavens point of view:

    Top down view of solar system April 3, AD 33.jpg


    Saturn where the head is, complete with either a halo (or crown of thorns) represented by the rings. Uranus and Jupiter as the hands, Venus and Earth as the feet. Interestingly only Venus and Uranus rotate counterclockwise - so as we have a left and right hand and a left and right foot we here see the two hands and feet rotating in opposite directions.

    The only thing I think he missed is another vantage point. When He died Jesus "descended" into hell. So, instead of looking at the planets from above the solar pole, what happens when you look from the 'bottom' - from the solar south pole? Well, it's basically the same. The only thing that would appear to be different is Mars's location. Seen from below Mars would appear on the right side of this celestial chest. Maybe close to where the spear of Longinus penetrated our Lord's body? Is Mars, the blood red planet close to where the wound in Christ's chest would have been? Kinda, I suppose.

    Just to be a completist I ran the same simulation Mr. Fiol did and in fact I found the same arrangement. Obviously there's some scaling that had to be done but the alignment is fairly accurate.

    Psalms: "The heavens shew forth the glory of God, and the firmament declareth the work of his hands."


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    That's pretty amazing!
     
  9. Seagrace

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    I find this extremely interesting. 22 June 2022 was just before the great Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus on the 24th.

    Have you had any other such dreams etc for this year? Anything pointing to a specific month?
     
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    Absolutely nothing.

    There was one significant occurrence that happened after June 22, 2022 though. On June 24, 2022 Roe v. Wade was struck down. Close but no cigar.

    June 24, 2022 was the Feast of the Sacred Heart you say?

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    https://www.catholicculture.org/cul...oly See has determined,on the 23rd, unless St.

    According to the link, there was another convergence last year: the Nativity of St John the Baptist actually fell on the same day as the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus but it was celebrated on the 23rd.
     
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