priest Francis Tiso's quest on the "resurrection body" !

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    https://www.facebook.com/tenzinwangyalrinpoche/videos/rainbow-body-and-resurrection/584280855616693/
    (He also has 1 (or 2?) books on the topic!

    Francis Tiso is a pries, who once spent 12 years as a contemplative hermit, who engages in inter-religious dialogue with tibetan buddhists. He more or less says that the Rainbow Body achievement of some meditators is a smaller equivalent of what resurrection bodies will be like. He stays firmly catholic but pays attention to all the wonderful and mysterious reports of rainbow body achievements.
    I cant post the photo because theyre dead bodies, but there ARE photos of corpses of lamas being 20 CM tall. like a small dwarf, but the person was of normal or even tall height while alive! it shrank!:eek:
    very mysterious stuff . why does God allow buddhists this boon? is science -real science not atheist memes- on the brink of discovering the resurrection bodies are going to happen?
     
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    Hmm I wouldn't mess with that stuff. The devil can work strange "wonders" too and is happy to lead people to believe they're doing it themselves, as a distraction from the True Faith.
     
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    so this priest is in the wrong,then?:unsure:
     
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    Thanks for posting this. I hadn't heard of Fr. Tiso and his research on this topic. I'm somewhat familiar with Dzogchen (not as a practitioner) and have friends who are interested in it's teachings. Fr. Tiso looks to have an extensive knowledge of the subject and from the little I've read from him, he seems to be suggesting that the Christian teaching of resurrection of the body may have had an influence on Dzogchen via a branch of Syrian Christianity. I purchased one of his books on Kindle and look forward to reading more.
    These are the last few paragraphs of his introduction to the book:

    "We are at a point in the history of humanity in which all religions, all systems of contemplative training and practice, are under extremely critical scrutiny. Not only are some marginal lineages in danger of extinction but also some of the more historically significant contemplative systems are on the verge of near-collapse. The Syro-Oriental “Assyrian” Church of the East, which only reconciled with the Catholic Church in 1994 with a common statement on Christological belief,45 now faces extinction in Syria and Iraq. The destruction of Tibetan culture continues with new forms of tragedy and ferocity, more than sixty years after the Chinese Communist invasion. Catholic monastic institutions in Western Europe and the Americas are declining after centuries of diastole and systole under a variety of anti-religious regimes. Eastern Orthodoxy in Russia and Eastern Europe is enjoying a period of flourishing under not always reliable government support. The Copts continue to struggle for survival in Egypt, with some remarkable achievements in maintaining and increasing the presence of Christian monasticism in their homeland.
    Journalist William Darymple describes the plight of Christians in the Middle East in his classic account, From the Holy Mountain.46 It has been my personal task to restore and reinforce some small instances of the institutional presence of Catholic Christianity in Europe and America, with special attention given to ecumenical and interreligious dialogue.
    Whenever it seems necessary to struggle for the basic survival of a religious tradition, I have discovered, there is less compelling impetus for the cultivation of the more mystical or contemplative approach within that tradition. For this reason, in the spirit of those teachers of the past who managed to hand on their wisdom in spite of unfavorable times and hostile circumstances, it is necessary to write a book of this kind."
    Presbyter Francis V. Tiso
    January 28, 2015, Memorial of St. Thomas Aquinas, Priest and Doctor of the Church
    Hermitage of Colle Croce, Isernia, Italy
     
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    Dave: Your comment reminded me of how ignorant I am of the different apostolic churches! the assyrian church, coptic- I dont know their canonical status or schisms. or difference between oriental (eastern?) orthodox and russian orthodox , different Rites within the Catholic church.
    I should read up. I just hope we can ALL get reunited, not just Russia .
    May we live to see this event of reunion(y)
     
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    Hi Santiago, I'm not that familiar with the status of these various branches myself. I was just quoting Fr. Tiso. Been reading a bit more of his book today and following his account of research he carried out in Tibet and India in the early 2000's.
     
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    Father Tiso also speaks about the Shroud of Turin. Here's a recent interesting (and lengthy) conversation with Fr. Andrew Dalton, on Pints With Aquinas, about the latest research on the Shroud and evidence for it's authenticity.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/HAbuG-oVq1Q?feature=share
     
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    Thanks for posting this Santiago, it's very interesting to hear a priest talk about this area of science. I've heard about the subject of light in our biology through scientists without faith but who seem honest in their quest to understand what they are discovering. They are talking about intelligence from outside sources - some even call it divine - about connections with everything in the universe etc. They seem like the modern wise men in a way who will come to understand and proclaim God through their honest research.

    I look forward to watching other videos of this priest now that I've discovered him.
     
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    The colours of Resurrection according to M Valtorta

    EMV 617 : La Résurrection

    "Alors, c'est réellement la "Lumière" qui a pris corps.

    Il ne s'agit pas de la faible lumière de la terre, ni du pauvre éclat des astres ou du soleil.
    C'est la Lumière de Dieu : toute la splendeur paradisiaque se rassemble en un seul Être et lui donne un bleu azur inconcevable dans les yeux, des feux d'or en guise de cheveux, des blancs purs et angéliques pour vêtement et coloris et, ce qui est indescriptible par des mots humains, la suréminente ardeur de la très sainte Trinité, dont la puissance anéantit tout feux du Paradis en l'absorbant en elle-même, pour l'engendrer à nouveau à chaque instant du Temps éternel : c'est le cœur du Ciel qui attire et diffuse son sang, les innombrables gouttes de son sang incorporel : les bienheureux, les anges, tout ce qui constitue le Paradis : l'amour de Dieu, l'amour pour Dieu,
    voilà la Lumière qu'est le Christ ressuscité et qui lui donne forme."
    https://www.maria-valtorta.org/Publication/TOME 10/10-003.htm
     
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    Emmerich's Vision of the luminous Resurrection

    I then saw the glorified body of our Lord rise up, and it passed through the hard rock as easily as if the latter had been formed of some ductile substance. The earth shook, and an angel in the garb of a warrior descended from Heaven with the speed of lightning, entered the tomb, lifted the stone, placed it on the right side, and seated himself upon it. At this tremendous sight the soldiers fell to the ground, and remained there apparently lifeless. When Cassius saw the bright light which illuminated, the tomb, he approached the place where the sacred body had been placed, looked at and touched the linen clothes in which it had been wrapped, and left the sepulchre, intending to go and inform Pilate of all that had happened. However, he tarried a short time to watch the progress of events; for although he had felt the earthquake, seen the angel move the stone, and looked at the empty tomb, yet he had not seen Jesus.

    At the very moment in which the angel entered the sepulchre and the earth quaked, I saw our Lord appear to his holy Mother on Calvary. His body was beautiful and lightsome, and its beauty was that of a celestial being. He was clothed in a large mantle, which at one moment looked dazzlingly white, as it floated through the air, waving to and fro with every breath of wind, and the next reflected a thousand brilliant colours as the sunbeams passed over it. His large open wounds shone brightly, and could be seen from a great distance: the wounds in his hands were so large that a finger might be put into them without difficulty; and rays of light proceeded from them, diverging in the direction of his fingers. The souls of the patriarchs bowed down before the Mother of our Saviour, and Jesus spoke to her concerning his Resurrection, telling her many things which I have forgotten. He showed her his wounds; and Mary prostrated to kiss his sacred feet; but he took her hand, raised her, and disappeared.

    When I was at some distance from the sepulchre I saw fresh lights burning there, and I likewise beheld a large luminous spot in the sky immediately over Jerusalem.

    https://www.ecatholic2000.com/anne/passion78.shtml
     
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    Be careful. Strange paths, many pitfalls. Why not read the lives of the Saints instead? Stick to well trodden paths.

    Psalm 131 1
    My heart is not proud, O LORD, my eyes are not haughty; I do not concern myself with great matters or things too wonderful for me. But I have stilled and quieted my soul; like a weaned child with its mother, like a weaned child is my soul within me.

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    There is a story I heard one time many years ago about a nun in France. She had a sudden idea clear as a bell that appeared to indicate that God did not exist. She was confused by this and could not find an answer to the argument.

    She told this argument against the existence of God to her Confessor who was also floored by the argument.

    He took it to a Community of Local Jesuits who were also flummoxed, could not find an answer and forwarded the nuns argument to the University of Paris.

    There the Top Theologians in Christendom argued and debated over this for an entire two weeks before they came up with a solution.

    The nun was given the solution , the answer, but was warned never to cite this argument ever again because it was so subtle and clever that it clearly had come from the lips of Satan himself.
     
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    Why does God allow buddhists this boon?

    In the end we are all going to shrink, ...even to dust.. (a bit flippant.)

    But if somebody should have doubts about the empty tomb, then perhaps these recent factual stories can at least allow the possibility of it.
    Same as with contemporary healing miracles: the biblical miracles are not only parables but facts as well.
     
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    I agree with you and cannot stand the way "scientists" pick apart life itself as if they own it. All life is sacred and should be approached with reverence because it is God's creation. But man doesn't do this and God suffers.

    Scientists went behind the veil into the realm of sacred mysteries a long time ago. It's a total violation of creation to have profane hands go in there, but they are doing it. And now the Church is supposed to stand back and just pretend like this has not happened? Remain ignorant and say "just say no" - that went over well with Darwinism didn't it?

    The problem is when science goes into the Temple, the Church has a duty to go in there and claim this stuff back. Research is doing unspeakable things to our DNA, manipulating life in all kinds of ways - I've read about research that frankly sounds unbelievable, scientists who projected genetic information from a distance onto a cell and the creature that emerged was different from the source of the cell. Really the stuff of the Bible because it goes straight to God making us into two aspects, His image and ressemblance. I heard a scientists say the other day that emotions are generated through frequencies - they know so many things about how our bodies work that we are ignorant about and yes if we obeyed God we would be fine, but we don't. They are harvesting our energy without out knowledge for pity's sake.

    I had never heard of Fr Tiso but just before santiago posted about him had heard through another Catholic author about cases of holy people dying in circumstances that ressemble what the Church calls "odors of sanctity". This happened to that monk that Fr Tiso spoke of also.

    The Church investigates its own saints, but it seems like there are very, very few fruits of holiness produced in the Church in these times. Could God be visiting others who are welcoming His Graces refused by the members of the Church?
     
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    I have read priests and nuns who speak of very,very special children who around at the moment. These are very young children who show the most extraordinary graces in abundance. Very young super saints God has given us for the coming times.

    I hope these rumours are true.

    https://madisoncatholicherald.org/ordinary-people/
     
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