The Miracle of the Illumination of All Consciences

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  1. Mario

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    I just finished reading this book by Thomas Petrisko. It is powerfully written, though with much information we already know. It does contain a riveting testimony by a Christopher Winters who experienced his personal Warning in 1988. What is most important, however, is the fresh perspective the author gives on the Illumination; at least it is refreshing to me.

    I have usually thought of the Warning/Miracle as a last ditch effort on God's part before the Chastisement, to save as many of his children as possible. This usually results in my focus shifting quickly to the Chastisement and of what it might consist. Perhaps my time spent on Ron Conte's Forum has influenced me because he estimates the length of the Chastiement to be around 28 years! Even Mark Mallett sees the Chastisement as containing a type of backlash to the Warning/Miracle which could give rise to an AntiChrist figure.

    On the other hand, Mr. Petrisko views the Warning, or Illumination as he prefers to call it, as the launchpad for the Era of Peace. It is the definitive act of Mercy from which satan never recovers. Millions upon millions will be converted and the progressive envelopment of darkness which we have witnessed since the Age of Enlightenment will be brought to a halt. Yes, the evil one will viciously strike back and the ones who reject their personal warnings will side with him, but the amazing and profound work wrought by the Warning and reaffirmed by the Miracle will never be undone! (y) Mary's children will always see the Era of Peace on the horizon, no matter what satan throws at them.

    To summarize the order of events as perceoved by Thomas Petrisko:

    The Illumination followed by Evangelization, affirmed by the Miracle, and completed by Purification. Then the flowering of the Era of Peace comes! Though the Purification is necessary and horrible, Petrisko wishes to focus on the great Mercy of the Illumination. That's when he sees the Lord taking the bull by the horns! Alleluia!

    Safe in the Father's Arms!
     
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    I notice you don't say what you think ,Terry?:) You are right of course in what you write that there are various views on exactly at what point in history the Illumination will come either at the start of the fullness of the Tribulation or at the end right before the Era of Peace /Triumph of Peace. This is important because if it is right before the Tribulation its due pretty well any time soon. Whereas if it is towards the End of the Tribulation I'd say maybe 30 years time.Bot ideas of when it will be fit in with the Medugorje, Rwanda and Akita prophesies as I suspect it will happen during the lifetime of the Medugorje visionaries who could be expected to be alive during this period.

    What do I think? My guess is that the Illumination will terminate the Tribulation period and so Mr Petrisko is right. I notice he mentions the prophecy of St Edward Campion an English Jesuit martryed under the reign of Elizabeth 1. This is important because I think this vision was given to St Edward to assure him that England WOULD come back to the faith and I think this is because of the Illumination.

    The Passionist Congregation are closely linked to this and I refer you to the most extraordinary book by a Passionist priest (whose cause is going forward in ),the late Fr Phillip Bebie CP.

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    Father Philip Bebie, C.P., St. Paul of the Cross Province (1931-1986)
    [October 30, 1986]
    Born on March 31, 1931 in Hawthorne, New Jersey he was the son of Edwin Bebie and Florence Foy. He was introduced to the Passionists through Sign Magazine. His aunt, Claire Foy, and his mother were secretaries at the magazine. His father supplied the paper for the printing of the magazine. As he grew up he met, on Sunday visits to his home, Fathers Pius Trevoy, C.P., Emmanuel Trainor, C.P., Ralph Gorman, C.P., David Bulmann, C.P. and Augustine Paul Hennessey, C.P. Through these visits the young man became aware of the various Passionist apostolates and way of religious life. Also impressive was a devotion to the Blessed Mother.
    For a while Bebie matriculated at Stevens Institute, Hoboken, New Jersey. Then he decided to go to the Passionist Novitiate in Pittsburgh. He took his vows on July 16, 1953. After studies in various monasteries, he was ordained by Bishop Cuthbert O'Gara, C.P. at St. Michael's Church on April 28, 1960 at Union City, New Jersey.
    From 1961 to 1967 Father Bebie was Passionist Vocation Director in Canada. Then he was called back to Union City to be Director of Students at the Theologate. In 1968 he was assigned as an Associate Retreat Director at St. Gabriel's, Brighton, Massachusetts.. Then he volunteered to be part of Core Group which set about to establish the Passionist House of Greater Solitude. With Fathers Silvan Rouse, C.P. and Malachy McGill, C.P. he went to Birmingham, Alabama to commence the experiment in Passionist community life. In 1974 they moved the foundation to Bedford, Pennsylvania.
    At that point Father Bebie desired to share his spiritual depth more in the apostolate. At the invitation of Father Michael Scanlon, O.F.M., President of Steubenville College he moved to the campus so as to organize retreats for priests involved in the charismatic movement nationwide. Still his devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary increased. In 1976 he returned to the province and joined the Passionist Charismatic Community at Chelsea, New York where he lived and prayed with Fathers Bennet Kelley, C.P., Owen Lally, C.P. and Michael Salvagna, C.P. During the next six years Father Bebie gave over one hundred missions throughout the United States. He was innovative in that he shared the pulpit with Sr. Angelique Dryden and Ms. Loretta Armstrong.
    At that point in time he got involved with Marian Pilgrimages in co-operation with the Blue Army. This led him to travel through the United States, Europe and Asia to instill greater devotion to Mary. Father Bebie wrote his first book Proclaim Her Name and did many tapes on the Blessed Mother. In 1982 Father Bebie came to Holy Family Monastery, West Hartford, Connecticut. For some time he cared for Father Rene Luedee who had cancer. After Father Luedee's death, Father Bebie learned he himself was terminally ill with rare liver cancer. He was relegated to a motorized chair and received many visitors during his last days.

    Fr Bebie wrote the book to comfort and instruct those who had just witnessed the Sign/ Illumination and died just as it was being printed.

    I am modelling the link on the Great Sign on his work. My spiritual director gave me this book when I was young.

    Mark Mallett of course wrote superbly well on this topic.
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    I would be most disappointed for poor old Joey Lomangino if he were to die before the Illumination & the Great Miracle where he was 'promised' new eyes' so I still am convinced that the Warning comes somewhere near the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

    http://www.garabandal.us/joey_story.html
     
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    Doctors differ, patients die.;) I had forgotten about Joey. I hope you are right I would love to be still alive in the days of His Coming.

    I must recheck Fr Bebbie.
     
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    Just thinking ahead. With Joey's possible death a wholehearted believer might decide that God would bring Joey back from the dead at the miracle.
     
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    Padraig, I do believe you & I will be alive at the time of the Warning, Padraig. I always get the most powerful sense when I think of the Illumination as the Holy Spirit has already touched me with the knowledge that my life will change utterly after it & I will enter some kind of 'ministry' for the Lord. I cannot explain it in words but I see myself teaching or preaching in the period after the Warning. It is really a very incredible sense like a foresight - much in the same way that you have witnessed your own martyrdom. I am only a very ordinary Catholic with little to offer the Lord really but the effect of the Warning is going to be transformative and the Lord is preparing us all for the Great Evangelization that is to come.. I have had this intuition for many years but even my wife does not know this & she would laugh at me if I shared these feelings now. But come the Warning she will go along with the plans that are in the mind of the Lord and that in itself will be an incredible miracle.

    Poor Old Joey is so patient but patience makes us into saints!!
     
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    Padraig,

    I basically believe in the outline of the Garabandal prophecies:

    First, there is a building crisis in the world called the Little Tribulation. I believe we're in that period, now. It reaches a climax after the Pope visits the Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow and Russia subsequently invades Europe. Persecution of the Church in Europe commences and when things are at their worst, the Warning occurs. About a year later the Miracle takes place. The Warning/Illumination will propel Mary's Army into a great evangelistic endeavor with our own forum member, garabandal, leading the way! ;) This period is marked by a great divide between those who love God and those who hate God. Then comes the Chastisement/Purification when the world will be purged of evil and the Era of Peace comes into full bloom.

    Now Mark Mallett has just stated in his latest blog entry that the AntiChrist is presently in the world. Previously he has surmised that this personage will somehow twist and use the Warning/Miracle to his advantage, to consolidate his power through deception. Though the technological means of supporting the reign of the AntiChrist are currently available, I'm not sure whether his reign happens during the Chastisement (though I'm leaning in that direction).

    I do believe the Illumination will occur within the next two years, but how long the Chasetisement lasts...:unsure: Of course, if the AntiChrist comes on the scene then we can point to Scripture. His reign lasts for three and one-half years.

    Maranatha!

    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
     
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    Sigh . I had just done a big long post on this and my browser suddenly disappeared taking my post along with it. Oh well! I'll start again.

    it was only when you Terry, and Bobby posted I was reminded we had discussed these things on the forum several times in great detail. I admit I am a little woozey on times and dates. When Our Lady showed me she wanted a permanent article on the Great Sign I just assumed it would be read by people just after the Great Sign many years after my death and of course the death of most on the forum. But it is of course much more logical that it should be much sooner when we are all around to help. For of course this is not the only forum on the internet set up by Our Blessed Lady to help folks just after the Great Sign there are many fairly secret and hidden right across the world in many different languages. Though this one I suspect is mostly to help out in the USA and Europe. Even teaching folks they can be forgiven and how to say an act of contrition will be a HUGE act of charity at this time.For people coming back to the Faith will be like lost sheep and will need great guidance also f course to help in a practical help to places of refuge, which will be and are also being set up across the globe. These refuges being so like the Irish monasteries that brought the Faith and learning to Europe after the Downfall of the Roman Empire.



    "Cry out these things to all, like the very echo of my voice. Let this be known to all because it will help save many souls, and prevent much destruction in the Church, and in the world." (Our Lady to Sister Elena Aiello, 1955)

    Though in those days it was the monks who kept the Faith in these darker latter times it will be the ordinary lay people who through blood and through prayer and under the leadership of Mary will keep the lamp of faith alight though it will seem to most that the Church herself is extinguished when Rome is herself destroyed as she once was and in fire will be once again.

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    MOTHER ELENA AIELLO
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    • April 7, 1950: Our Blessed Mother….. Good Friday
      "Satan reigns and triumphs on earth! See how the souls are falling into Hell. See how high the flames are, and the souls who fall into them like flakes of snow look like transparent embers! How many sparks! How many cries of hate, and of despair! How much pain!
      " See how many priestly souls! Look at the sign of their consecration in their transparent hands! (In the palms of their hands the sign of the cross, in more vivid fire, could be seen!) What torture, My daughter, in My Maternal Heart! Great is My sorrow to see that men do not change! The justice of the Father requires reparation -- otherwise many will be lost!
      " See how Russia will burn!" Before my eyes there extended an immense field covered with flames and smoke, in which souls were submerged as if in a sea of fire!
      " And all this fire," concluded the Madonna, " Is not that which will fall from the hands of men, but will be hurled directly from the Angels (at the time of the great chastisement or 'housecleaning' that will come upon the earth). Therefore, I ask prayers, penance and sacrifice, so I may act as Mediatrix for My Son in order to save souls."
    • December 8, 1958: Feast of the Immaculate Conception
      " The times are grievous. The whole world is in turmoil because it has become worse than at the time of the deluge! Everything is in suspense, like a thread; when this thread breaks, the justice of God will like a thunderbolt and will complete its terrible course of purification."
      Sister Elena asked, "What will become of Italy?"
      "Italy, My daughter, will be humiliated, purified in blood, and must suffer much, because many are the sins if this beloved country seat of the Vicar of Christ. You cannot imagine what will happen! In those sad days there will be much anguish and weeping. There will be a great revolution, and street will be red with blood.
      "The Pope will suffer much, and all this suffering will be like an agony, which will shorted his earthly pilgrimage. His successor will guide the boat in the tempest.
      "However, the punishment of the impious will not be delayed. That day will be most fearful in the world! The earth will tremble, all humanity will be shaken!"
    1. 1959: The Madonna
      " Russia will march upon all the nations of Europe, particularly Italy, and will raise her flag over the Dome of St. Peter's. Italy will be severely tired by a great revolution, and Rome will be purified in blood for its many sins, especially those of impurity! The flock is about to be dispersed and the Pope must suffer greatly!"
    2. 1961: Good Friday
    "People pay no attention to my motherly warnings, and thus the world is falling headlong evermore into an abyss of iniquity. Nations shall be convulsed by terrible disasters, causing destruction and death.
    " Russia, spurred on by Satan, will seek to dominate the whole world and, by bloody revolutions, will propagate her false teachings throughout all the nations, especially in Italy. The Church will be persecuted and the Pope and the priests shall suffer much."
    "Oh, what a horrible vision I see! A great revolution is going on in Rome! They are entering the Vatican. The Pope is all alone; he is praying. They are holding the Pope. They take him by force. They knock him down to the floor. They are trying him. Oh God! Oh, God! They are kicking him. What a horrible scene! How dreadful!
    "Our Blessed Mother is drawing near. Like corpses those evil men fall down to the floor. Our Lady helps the Pope to his feet and, taking him by the are, she covers him with her mantle saying: 'Fear not!'
    "Flagstaffs (flying the Red flag over St. Peter's dome and elsewhere) collapse, and power is gone out of the clubs of those evil brutes. These atheists are ever shouting: 'We don’t want God to rule over us; we want Satan to be our master!"
    "My daughter, Rome will not be saved, because the Italian rulers have forsaken the Divine Light and because only a few people really love the church. But the day is not far off when all the wicked shall perish, under the tremendous blows of Divine Justice."

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    The Great events [Warning/Great Miracle/Secrets of Medjugorje] will occur for this generation because of the Mercy of God. The destruction of family life and the rampant individualism, hedonism and materialism has damaged many lives. Ninety percent of American prisoners were raised with absent fathers - the loss of Fatherhood & Manhood has been a staggering feature of modern life. I have noticed that the messages of Medjugorje teach a lot about God the Father & how his heart aches for the lost children of this generation. The Prodigal Father is in search of His children and desires to reveal His heart to this broken world. Mercy is like a waterfall - continuous and over-flowing and God loves to reveal His Mercy. The Illumination is a great act of Mercy and Love, a staggering event that will change the world forever & please God we will all live to experience it.
     
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    Has anyone heard any updates on the pope's travel plans regarding Russia for 2012?
     
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    I believe the Illumination will take place at the end of the tribulation. The only reason for this is a flimsy one. It's because I dreamed it in that order. The storm, the church crumbling, feeling abandoned by the clergy, people dying in the chaos, and the mini-judgment where I realized hell was my fate, sure I was doomed forever in that order. Next, I woke up to a post-storm world, littered with debris from the storm, to see Jesus surrounded by the rosary in the sky. At this point the few people who had survived had a deeper understanding of things. The knowledge that we were to rebuild civilization based on the truth pressed into our minds was a task set out before us. No words were exchanged, but I simply knew this, and sensed the other survivors did as well.

    Since events occurred in that sequence in my dream, I figure its as good a reason as any I've seen so far to expect them to unfold that way in real life.

    As for Joey, some of you may remember what I expect to heaven. He will die before he gets new eyes. Then everybody will say, oh, we were mistaken. The prophecy must have meant he'll get new eyes in heaven. Our bad.

    I'm such a curmudgeon.
     
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    Is it possible Deanna that the events you saw in your dream (which I believe to have been a true one) might be the beginning of the Tribulation rather than the end? Dreams by their nature are a little fuzzy on dates.
     
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    All I know is it was a nice summer evening, interrupted by a terrible tribulation, all went black, and the next time I woke it was a lovely spring morning. I didn't see into the future beyond that, but I knew we (the survivors) had a daunting task ahead of us.

    What you said earlier applies here.

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    Reminds me of my impression at the end of the dream. Ordinary people, lay people, were being called to rebuild. The church would be simpler and holier, somehow.
     
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    I wonder if it is possible that the Pope will visit Russia on a peace mission that will fail? In the same way that Blessed John xiii intervened in the Cuban Missile crisis and pulled the coals out of the fire?

    This in line with his namesake who also gloriously failed. Dying, they say, of a broken heart.

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    To The Heads of the Belligerent Peoples

    From the beginning of Our Pontificate, amidst the horrors of the terrible war unleashed upon Europe, We have kept before Our attention three things above all: to preserve complete impartiality in relation to all the belligerents, as is appropriate to him who is the common father and who loves all his children with equal affection; to endeavour constantly to do all the most possible good, without personal exceptions and without national or religious distinctions, a duty which the universal law of charity, as well as the supreme spiritual charge entrusted to Us by Christ, dictates to Us; finally, as Our peacemaking mission equally demands, to leave nothing undone within Our power, which could assist in hastening the end of this calamity, by trying to lead the peoples and their heads to more moderate frames of mind and to the calm deliberations of peace, of a "just and lasting" peace.​
    Whoever has followed Our work during the three unhappy years which have just elapsed, has been able to recognize with ease that We have always remained faithful to Our resolution of absolute impartiality and to Our practical policy of well-doing.
    We have never ceased to urge the belligerent peoples and Governments to become brothers once more, even although publicity has not been given to all which We have done to attain this most noble end...
    First of all, the fundamental point should be that for the material force of arms should be substituted the moral force of law; hence a just agreement by all for the simultaneous and reciprocal reduction of armaments, according to rules and guarantees to be established to the degree necessary and sufficient for the maintenance of public order in each State; then, instead of armies, the institution of arbitration, with its lofty peacemaking function, according to the standards to be agreed upon and with sanctions to be decided against the State which might refuse to submit international questions to arbitration or to accept its decisions.
    Once the supremacy of law has been established, let every obstacle to the ways of communication between the peoples be removed, by ensuring through rules to be fixed in similar fashion, the true freedom and common use of the seas. This would, on the one hand, remove many reasons for conflict and, on the other, would open new sources of prosperity and progress to all...
    With regard to territorial questions, such as those disputed between Italy and Austria, and between Germany and France, there is ground for hope that in consideration of the immense advantages of a lasting peace with disarmament, the conflicting parties will examine them in a conciliatory frame of mind, taking into account so far as it is just and practicable, as We have said previously, the aspirations of the peoples and co-ordinating, according to circumstances, particular interests with the general good of the great human society.
    The same spirit of equity and justice should direct the examination of other territorial and political questions, notably those relating to Armenia, the Balkan States, and the territories composing the ancient Kingdom of Poland, for which especially its noble historical traditions and the sufferings which it has undergone, particularly during the present war, ought rightly to enlist the sympathies of the nations.
    Such are the principal foundations upon which We believe the future reorganization of peoples should rest. They are of a kind which would make impossible the recurrence of such conflicts and would pave the way for a solution of the economic question, so important for the future and the material welfare of all the belligerent States...
     
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    Brand new to this fabulous forum. May I add a comment, please be very careful I. Your discernment, particularly R. Conte. There were several statements I found troubling. He denounces certain church accepted devotions, one of which St Gertrude and the 15 secret tortures. This has long been church accepted. He takes credit for st Malachi's prophesy of the popes. He denounces certain messages based on his opinion where as people who actually witnessed these say otherwise. Whereas the church states it is better to believe (since the church cannot proclaim any messages as truly worthy until they have finished and much time spent in studying the messages) I have found that he actually discourages some prayers and devotions.
    And the most common he has set so many dates, of course all have been proven wrong. (isnt that how to discern a false prophet?). Several people have asked what his theology background is without response. I asked him these questions and instead of an answer he removed my post and barred me from his site.
    I am certainly not condemning him ....or anyone....but only encouraging his followers to discern carefully. I cannot imagine any 'theologian' who discourages prayer, ESP those devotions long standing church approved..
     
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    I feel the same way. I have this sense of URGENCY, to get things done now. I have this sense that my 'ministry' will be to help care for the elderly

    I keep coming across people who say I've always known I have an end time purpose.

    It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop.
     
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    Padraig wrote:
    When Our Lady showed me she wanted a permanent article on the Great Sign I just assumed it would be read by people just after the Great Sign many years after my death and of course the death of most on the forum. But it is of course much more logical that it should be much sooner when we are all around to help. For of course this is not the only forum on the internet set up by Our Blessed Lady to help folks just after the Great Sign there are many fairly secret and hidden right across the world in many different languages. Though this one I suspect is mostly to help out in the USA and Europe. Even teaching folks they can be forgiven and how to say an act of contrition will be a HUGE act of charity at this time.For people coming back to the Faith will be like lost sheep and will need great guidance also f course to help in a practical help to places of refuge, which will be and are also being set up across the globe. These refuges being so like the Irish monasteries that brought the Faith and learning to Europe after the Downfall of the Roman Empire.

    Hi Padraig -
    Is it possible for you to clarify a few things that caught my eye in the paragraph you posted? Particularly in red. How does Our Lady show you she wants something? Is it a very strong feeling you get in prayer or do you get a visual or something else? Your prayer life is extraordinary if you get such visuals!!

    Also the "places of refuge" statement. I remember we've had discussions here before on the topic, and I believe the consensus was it was more of a symbolic statement, meaning under our Lady's mantle or in her immaculate heart we would be safe, and not a real physical place. What do you mean in the paragraph above? Do you feel there will be safe places of refuge that are being set up now where we will be able to temporarily get physical shelter? Have you been given a visual of this? Or maybe you mean places like this forum (and the others being established on the internet) will be a place of refuge. Just curious!
     
  19. BrianK

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    Interesting, I was just doing an Internet search for Fr. Silvan Rouse and found this thread.

    I never met Fr. Bebie but he lived with my spiritual director, Fr. Silvan Rouse, at St. Mary's House of Solitude in Bedford PA for a number of years. Long ago Fr. Silvan gave me a copy of his book on the Warning.

    I first met Fr. Silvan when I was 16, a couple years after Fr. Bebie left Bedford. Fr. Silvan was my spiritual director for over 20 years, from my early adulthood till just a couple years ago when his health was failing.

    Fr. Silvan just died at 92 on Saturday. He was truly ready to go and excited to meet Our Lord face to face.

    He was a retreat master of the highest order, one of the best in the country. He had a retreat house in Bedford PA where men came from all over the world to do 40 day retreats. Fr. Groeschel knew him well and sent many men to him for retreats. He studied mystical and spiritual theology under Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange in Rome, two years after John Paul II studied under him. He served as an advisor for two bishops at, and attended all of, Vatican II.

    My son Mike discerned his vocation under Fr. Silvan's spiritual direction. Fr. Silvan was advancing in age and never accepted anyone for a 40 day retreat before they turned 18, but he made an exception for Mike.

    A friend of mine wrote a beautiful blog post about him yesterday:
    http://vivificat1.blogspot.com/2014/10/fr-silvan-rouse-called-to-our-fathers.html

    I truly believe Fr. Silvan went straight to Heaven. He was the most kind, holy and charitable priest I ever met. All of us who knew him miss him dearly.
     
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    When St Paul of the Cross was founding the Passionists Our Lady promised him that his followers would be few but holy.

    Actually Our Lady appeared wearing the Passionist habit, which I think is beautiful. Most people I have met from the order have been holy, some saints. Not all have been either good or holy though. As you might expect.

    I remember one time bringing a large group of young people to visit a religious house and the poor priest who greeted us was quite drunk. I did not notice but the young people certainly did.

    But yes some of the Congregation I knew were real saints.

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