'Climate change' is it propaganda?

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  1. garabandal

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    Tell a big lie, tell it often enough and people will believe.

    Back it up with 24/7 news coverage of every 'weather' disaster then it permeates every brain.

    I am a sceptic.

    I am sceptical of the narrative - it used to be called global warming they changed it to climate change.

    The climate always changes! Look at the medieval warming period and then later the mini ice age of the 1700s.

    They fly to these meetings in private jets. Indicates to me they don't really believe in climate change -

    A bit like covid. Apparently no one ever wore a mask in 10 Downing Street - they knew masks do not work.

    I am open to being challenged -

    Is there a real consensus on this issue?

    Is it really happening?

    For example can someone find any real evidence of sea level rise?
     
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    You forgot to mention the ice age warnings we were given. Here is Leonard Nimoy telling us what scientists and experts were saying and how our grandchildren would see an ice age, and other blah, blah...

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1593987956842315778

    So I think what happened is the experts said it would get very cold but they forgot to factor in all the hot air from politicians which must have saved us from the doom of the ice age. That sounds like good science to me - is it ok for you? ;)
     
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    It's an opportunistic power-play in my opinion, even if the planet actually is warming up. It's already leading to famine and this will get unimaginably worse, I fear. This is not a bug in the elites' programme, but a feature. They are already interfering with the planetary food-supply and the question is if this has been long in the preparation. Was the Common Agricultural Food Policy in the EU, to take one example, about ensuring food security, as claimed, or has it been really about taking control of the means of production, rendering every farmer into a timid, obedient employee rather than the independent, self-employed individual he had once been?
     
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    As for rises in sea-levels, one should expect them to be in inverse proportion to seaside property values. As the latter seem to be only going upwards, draw your own conclusions. Additionally, at least in Ireland, there is no urgency whatsoever in strengthening coastal barriers. The Irish Government is dead set on directing resources to 'preventing' and 'reversing' climate change, measures which might well not work at all, whether or not other much larger economies follow suit, but seem completely uninterested in diverting resources to combat the effects of the 'climate change' they are so alarmed about.
     
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    I am quietly sceptical. As Garabandal says, the earth’s climate has always changed.

    Even if this is man made, I resent the uk govt which insists on our country having zero carbon emissions. This will have no effect on the planet at all while the big polluters, eg: China, India, continue as before. The effect on our society will be awful, especially for the poor and vulnerable. But the ideology trumps the little people.

    My husband is a scientifically minded person and buys into the whole theory. We went to his college’s annual alumni get together and these professors were worshipping at the altar of Greta. This is the university where Isaac Newton studied and has among the greatest minds in its roll call. So no back water. I sat fuming and wondered if I was the only non-conformist there. Perhaps they know something I don’t.

    I think part of my reasoning is that I’m quite old. I lived through the chicken licken wailing about the bomb, the ozone layer, the coming big freeze and all the rest of it. In the words of The Who: “won’t get fooled again”.
     
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    You should have a go at the scientists for causing the problem, if there is one. The technology which is purportedly causing 'climate change' is a direct product of science. Therefore, not only did they murder the planet, by their own rights, they failed to see it coming until the eleventh hour. Instead of meeting and celebrating one another, they ought to don sackcloth and ashes.
     
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    Climate change?

    We used to call it “weather.”
     
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  8. Lois

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    When we were kids in school they used to tell us how important the trees were ~ paper bags were bad. So no one batted an eye when plastic bags came out ~ save a tree they said. Trees are good, they clear out carbon dioxide.

    Now, we have to pay carbon taxes to fight climate change, but I have yet to read anywhere how this $ will be spent to do that. Is the money somehow going to reduce the carbon all on its own?
     
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    It’s all and only a scam, an excuse for a massive Marxist transfer of wealth.
     
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    Jordan Peterson puts it well, in this eye opening video below.

     
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    And here is Dr Robert Malone speaking about the Global predators after he analysed their 3 years of incompetence. He goes on to give a suggestion of what possibly could be the worlds future if these predators remain in power.

     
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    Yes it"s bad humans and animals who are the problem so I guess the taxes are the means to separate us from our money so we can't use it to harm the planet anymore - or some similar stupid reasoning which only applies to us and not to them.

    Did you see that they are targetting our pets now? When I hear them blaming cows instead of all their war apparatus and global industries, I think of how the cow was in the grotto with the Holy Family so of course they hate cows. Dogs are friends to men in this malicious world so they hate them too.

    Meanwhile, over 400 private jets were apparently used to fly these people into Egypt recently for their COP27 meetings... Pharisians!
     
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    Pharisians, indeed. That the jets were private lets you know that they don't intend to stop flying anytime soon; but you should give up your car, it's the right thing to do...

    Wanting rid of livestock and pets almost seems a direct attack on consciousness itself. Those who advocate these annihilations never seem to volunteer themselves, or lead by example.
     
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    It is difficult to comment on such matters when you are not a scientist.

    Just as it is difficult to comment on matters in the Church when you are not a Theologian.

    Just as it is difficult to comment on Masks and Vaccinations and Lock Downs when you are not a Doctor.

    Just as it is difficult to comment on lies and censorship on Mass/Social Media when you are not a Journalist or IT expert.

    Just as it is difficult to comment on the Great Reset if you are not an Economist.

    But I believe Scripture and the Teachings of the Church show that we are provided with the guide of grace aided reason (conscience) and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Also dare I say common sense in all these matters.:)

    The one Common Thread in all these issues is centralised Control. More power to Governments. More power to World Governance. Less power to the individual. Or in other words we are being guided by all this in one direction. That we are sheep who need herded.

    How are we to guided in the , 'Right' direction in all these matters? Through Fear. So we surrender our own destinies our Freedoms because of fear.

    So that is why I no not believe in any of it. I simply do not trust any of the ones who pump out all this stuff. I think it is all about Fear and Control.

    But is it reasonable to take such a position when all the , 'Experts' and the Mass consensus point us in the opposite direction? Well as Pope St John Paul famously said the fact that a majority agree on something does not make it right.

    It is a bit like meeting and talking to a total stranger on the street. I believe if we are people of prayer and alert in the Spirit and have at least a little Spiritual Maturity we will have some good sense if the person we talking to is dangerous or a good or bad person or not. At the very least if they are a danger. Surely at least if we are paying Spiritual Attention we should hear the voice of our Guardian Angel warning us.

    It is the same with something like Global Warming. Every time I hear those two fateful words I feel a sense of evil, of a hand reaching out to press buttons.

    Well I won't be controlled and won't but into any of it.

    I won't be afraid...and so I won't be controlled.

    'What is climate anxiety? Climate anxiety, or eco-anxiety, is distress related to worries about the effects of climate change. It is not a mental illness. Rather, it is anxiety rooted in uncertainty about the future and alerting us to the dangers of a changing climate'.

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    We should be good stewards of God's creation always!! But for me, climate change is a hoax to create a multi trillion dollar industry. This hoax has been going on since the 1950's and since the 1950's the message has always been we have 10 years to save the planet or we are all doomed forever. Well that has turned into 70 years now and the message is always the same and people continue to fall for this scam. For me it is very simple. If the ice caps were melting and if the seas were going to rise, then the most expensive real estate in the world, ie the coast lines, no banks would be giving out 10 year loans, let alone 30 year loans. Why would they do this knowing all the property would be destroyed. They simply would not!
     
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    An excellent article on these climate change billionaires. Sad how millionaires used to invest in communities. They once built beautiful buildings, libraries, villages, charities, etc. Today the billionaires invest in gadgets to get rich, damage society, and then invest in way’s to escape earth and leave the rest of us to pick up their mess.
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
     
  18. Lois

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    This would be the case 20 years ago. Now loans are given to everyone for anything at all. "No job, no credit, no problem!"

    Imho, it's no longer about the $, it's all about power. Governments are giving $$ out like there's no end to it. Do banks really care if someone's house is too close to the shore? I honestly think they could care less.
     
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    We are back to 2008. It’s what I assume Biden meant with his Build Back Better lie.
     
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  20. Lois

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    Or 2001 after 9-11. Bush kept saying "We will rebuild!" The first book Jonathan Cahn wrote, "The Harbinger", was a really good interpretation of what was happening at the time. Things have escalated so much since then...
     
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