I have been pondering this information: "One day, before the Miracle, something will happen that will cause many people to stop believing in the apparitions of Garabandal. The doubts and desertions will not be due to an excessive delay of the Miracle." As a thought experiment I have been thinking about various components of these two sentences... - The statement does not mention the Warning but instead the Miracle. Why? Mari Loli knew the date of the Warning and Conchita the date of the Miracle. The Warning will come directly from God but will not be pre-announced. The Miracle will also come directly from God but IS to be pre-announced. - There will be doubts and desertions. What would cause the firm supporters of Garabandal to lose faith, including that of Conchita's own family? They would believe that she deceived them. Generally the death of Joey Lomangino was shocking but has not destroyed the basis of belief in Garabandal, therefore I do not believe that this is the predicted occurrence. - Secular world events would not really cause a disbelief in Garabandal. - The Church could rule against Garabandal. But I do not think it is related to this. Many firm believers would still believe that truth of the apparitions. And it is not likely that the Church would suddenly rule against Garabandal unless something new came to light. - The second sentence discusses the doubts and desertions and that they affect an excessive delay of the Miracle. The doubts somehow impact the perceived relationship of the Miracle but in reality will not prevent it. The most logical conclusion, and mind you this is only a theory, is that the event to occur will be the death of Conchita. Conchita was given the task of announcing the Miracle. However she is not necessary in it coming about. If she is present to make the announcement or not, it would occur. However the perception with her death would cause great confusion in the validity of the apparitions. Especially when taken in conjunction with the death of Joey. Even her family would then have reason to doubt in the authenticity. The death of Conchita would occur even before the Warning for once it happens all will believe that it is from God. Thus the appearance of the Miracle would be taken in the same spirit. But if Conchita died before the Warning, there would be no perceived validation of the apparitions and people would disbelieve in the coming of the Miracle due to Conchita not being able to make the announcement. The only validation would be when the Warning and Miracle would occur on their own direction from God under his timetable. I think the death of Joey was a pre-cursor.
Now there's something to think about, but she did say that she will be making the announcement 8 days before the event, how can that be if she is dead??
It could be made by letter. Or it may not be made at all even though she initially said she would do so. There is no other event that I can think of that would have such a devastating impact. If the Church were to formally disapprove of Garabandal, most of us would just say that such was predicted beforehand and we would not falter. But... If she died, what would you Dear Readers think? Remember again that this event strikes at the heart of the belief of the apparitions so much so that her family would not believe as well. It would be a thundercrash.
Maybe so. But this idea may be contradictory to something else Conchita was told by the Virgin Mary about who among the four girls would be present at the pines for the Miracle. Glenn or Aviso probably have the information, but I recall reading an account of Conchita being told that she would be there, but at least one of the other three would not (due to death, or something of that nature).
I read somewhere, years ago, that when ask, she stated that she didn't know if she would be there or not.
One of the true tests of authentic assertions is their vulnerability to being falsified. For instance, at Fatima, Our Lady told the seers that at a certain time and a certain place a Miracle would occur that would serve as a divine proof of the messages. Clearly, this was a falsifiable assertion, for if the Miracle had not occured as predicted, then the skeptics would have been well justified in doubting the authenticity. If Conchita were to die before the 8 day notice of the Miracle, then I am afraid that I would no longer be able to find Garabandal credible. A major test of authencity would have failed and Garabandal would no longer be falsifiable.
I find this thread incredibly tasteless. This is speculation in the most heartless manner. It just bothers me to see Conchita spoke of in such a throwaway fashion. Or perhaps I'm being over sensitive. Just my 2 cents.
Conchita is probably reading this thread getting a good laugh. She seems like the kind of person who has a good sense of humor.
Aviso - please back up your 100% claim This is not meant to be gruesome but speculation on the nature of the event that would case mass rejection of Garabandal. If you have another scenario, please share your thoughts instead.
I did not feel as if Local's hypothesis was heartless or tasteless. We are all going to die, everyone of us, and more than anyone on this forum she is probably looking forward to it!
She already lost Loli, one of the Garabandal seer and a very good friend then Joey Lomangino as her Husband recently, so it's easy to imagine her sadness but she will be alive for the Great Miracle and will announce the date as indicaded by heaven, be sure of that. Aviso
Aviso, I have studied catholic prophecy for 35 years. I am well aware of what is coming. I was also privy to many private discussions with mother anglica when I was at ewtn in the 80s. no one is fully prepared for the brutality of what is coming
I would like to hear any of Mothers reflections if you can share with us. I understand if you cant,i honor private conversations myself. Almost everyday I watch Mother and when she comments on the state of the world I look at the date she made the statement. 1994, 1998...etc and wonder what she would say now...
Unfortunately I cannot as the conversations were with us brothers and priests of her men's community. What I can say generally though is that she did prepare with lots of food and water for the sisters and us and that she was in contact with mystics who are little known by others who confirmed information regarding the coming chastisements. Many stories about Mother will be made known after her death such as her experiences with the devil, etc. I left the men's community in the earlyish 90s
Three days in whale, three days in tomb, pope viewing shroud, 3 days of darkness?, won't sleep til spring! All to pass by April 2016?
