‘Round pegs in square holes.’

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by pat333, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. pat333

    pat333 Guest

    I have been looking and reading through many, many threads on this site. I have had a few days to spare and spent this time praying and reading your posts. This is why I have started this thread, ‘Round pegs in square holes.’ I see myself and my opinions here that I have had over the past years in so many discussions about messages and prophecy. Such as, trying to squeeze messages into fitting my opinion. My own opinion is self and Jesus said I must die to self and only then will I produce fruit. I am so, so guilty of this.

    There are a few things I use to help stop self blocking my understanding. One thing that I look at is, the Jews waiting on the Messiah. There would have been many groups like us, discussing the Scripture and arguing about true and false prophecy, just like us now.

    But, when the Messiah came, (Jesus Christ, Son of the living God) so many of those groups would have condemned him and rejected him as being the Messiah, whom they all were waiting on!! Because they would have allowed self to cloud their minds with its own interpretations of what was to come.
    I have learned through my many, many mistakes through the years to try to remain open and listen to what others have to say so that I do not cloud myself in my own opinions and so be blind to what is really happening around me.

    Over the last few days I have read the messages of Fatima, Garabandal, Akita, some of Medjugorje, Mount Melleray and the Catechism and Scripture and I am shocked with what I have read, to do with the end times. I have read these messages many times in the past but never all together. I am not going to say on this forum what I have seen or came up with for it could be totally wrong and my own opinion and I do not wish to mislead anyone. What I will say is, I think we may be further along and, in more dark times than I have thought and I may have rejected some true prophesies from around the world as being false.

    This is another piece of Scripture I use to try and stop self clouding my mind

    Luke 10:21
    "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes.”

    When I read messages now I always “try” ( it does not always work for self is still very strong in me ) to think, what way would a child read this message? I think a child would read with a pure simple heart, an open heart, without trying to put its own interpretation on them. It is only the Holy Spirit that can give true interpretation. The “wise and prudent” will interpret it into their own understanding and believe then they are right no matter what evidence is put before them.

    I have fallen into this trap so many times in my life. I have been reading prophecy now for about 37 years and have got it wrong so many times in the past and I'm sure have guided other people with my opinions on the wrong path of interpretation of what is to come.

    This is why I will not make judgement of which prophet, visionary or seer is right or wrong - in my opinion. I think to myself, when Jesus, the Messiah, walked this Earth, would I have been in the crowd shouting crucify him?

    With much sadness I know I would have been shouting ‘Crucify Him’. My reason would have been, say the Jewish Temple of that time, is like The Church of our time now and this man Jesus was attacking the men of that church with his words. Caiaphas the chief priest, the Priests, The Scribes and The Pharisees (I must add here he did not attack the Temple, The Church, but the men who were blinding his people to the truth) who are like The Pope, The Cardinals, The bishops and The Priests of this time. So I know I would have seen this man, this false prophet, in my opinion condemning those that I believe to be good, chosen by God. Oh Jesus I am so sorry for I can see myself in that crowd crying for your death, how blind I am, have mercy on me a poor sinner!

    All I can say is: ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to read Our Lady’s messages with a simple and unclouded heart and mind again and see what you come up with.

    I love you all and one day I hope we will all meet in heaven and be able to laugh about our battle with self for I'm sure it will look stupid to us at how simply we were able to blind ourselves to the truth that was staring us in the face.

    Please, pray for me. I will always remember you all of this forum in my prayers.

    God Bless you and may, Our Lady, surround both you and your families in her loving protection.
     
  2. Carmel333

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    Bless you Pat! Just BE CAREFUL "out there" reading messages, and don't get sucked into any particular one. Test the spirits by comparing them with the teachings of the Catholic Church, because as Jesus said, His Church would withstand the very gates of hell! ;)
     
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  3. Aviso

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    I am not use to reply to any other thread than mine but I want to tell you, especially you Pat333, I will Pray for you, don't leave, stay till the end, we will need each other behind our Lord, we are now in the time of Garabandal, soon after a very short time, we will not recognize this world, you have my word, a Catholic word.

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  4. Jane

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    Pat333,
    I really like what you have said.
    At the moment I have got sucked into reading all these posts, and I know I have to lay off a bit.

    But I hope you weren't refering to the post I started regarding True prophecies/False prophecies. But I think you are.
    That's ok. I know where you are coming from. :)

    I too dislike immensely 'a closed mind'.
    I certainly don't see myself as this. I am happy to be wrong (well not too happy) but accepting is a better word.;)

    There are so many seers and prophets out there and they can't all be true. (Well I suppose they can, but they aren't).

    So I do encourage people to talk about it.

    Gospel says.... "Beware of the false prophet, which comes to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."
    and...."For false Christs and false prophets will appear and will perform great signs and miracles, to decieve even the elect, if possible."

    So let's help each other with an open mind.:)
     
  5. Pat333 I will pray for you at Mass tomorrow night put your faith and trust in God :)
     
  6. pat333

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    Thank you. All

    Jane
    No, I was not speaking about your thread. I liked it.

    I have no right to judge any one of you or your opinions for I will stand alone on the day of my Judgement and answer for my own opinions and if they have misguided anyone, my own blindness, my own sin and I pray that my most loving friend, Jesus, has mercy on me a pour sinner.
    You are all lovely and I know you all want to do what Our Mother Mary asks of you.

    I simply wrote this because, I could hear my younger self talking here in the forum, not that the older self is any better and still struggling. But my heart Burns for the love of, Our Master Jesus and his beloved children. I so wish and pray that no one would be lost to the fires of hell and all souls would go to heaven for none of us can believe or imagine the pain it causes Jesus and Mary when one of their children are lost.

    I was simply telling you all how blind I have been in my interpretation of many prophesies throughout the years of my life in thinking I knew the mind of Jesus and his Mother in my own sensational interpretation and I am so sorry for this.

    There are spiritual signs and physical signs.
    There are spiritual wars and physical wars.
    There are spiritual plagues and physical plagues.
    There are spiritual earthquakes and physical earthquakes.
    There are spiritual floods and physical floods.
    There are spiritual famines and physical famines.

    I can be blind to the spiritual, because of my desire in self, that only seeks the physical and so I am blinded to what Jesus and Mary wishes me to see and so I am blinded to how they want me to change my life, so that they can use me for the good of their children.

    God Bless you all, I do love you.
     
  7. RoryRory

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    What a heartfelt post Pat!. We are all on the journey and praying for one another.We will continue praying and discerning.
     
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    Well said Pat! You have an eloquent way of expressing your feelings.

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