Transhumanism

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  1. lynnfiat

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    I think this might be THE reason for the Warning and other divine interventions prophesied to come.

    Humans think they can not only recreate themselves, but be the creators of god itself (the Singularity). It's very interesting to me that these people don't want to be subject to their loving Creator but they're perfectly willing to potentially subject themselves to an unpredictable AI god.
     
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    It reminds me of the Snake in the Garden of Eden who tempted Eve to eat the Apple of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

    Or again the building of the Tower of Babel.
     
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    Good thought! There’s nothing new under the sun.
    Just pure rebellious evil, repackaged.
     
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    I posted this in another thread, but will put it here too. Tom Horn discusses his research on transhumanism and it gives a good overview of the subject.

     
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    This is something I wrote several years ago prior to the article I posted on the top of this page:

    I happened to read an article that was on the news about a man that they called a “transhumanist” who was involved with a high up official in the Navy (I think ex-official) that together wanted science to implant a “chip” in everyone (I assume that is all who accept the chip)! As I got curious (that killed the cat!) about what they were getting into, I went to my trusty computer to google his name and came up with Zoltan Istvan Gyurko. Then I went to the Adoration chapel and during Adoration remembered a prophecy that was given in 1990, “The seat of the anti-christ is north of San Franciso.” (This was on Spirit Daily years ago). When I looked up where this Zoltan guy was from – none other than Mill Valley CA – north of San Francisco just over the bridge and just past the Presidio.

    Wondering just exactly what transhumanist meant, I found that the ultimate of what they are seeking is a quest for immortality (that’s not in heaven – but on earth! ) I also found that Zoltan is an atheist. There was a quote from a Francs Fukuyama (sounds Japanese) who said that transhumanism is one of the “worlds most dangerous ideas.”

    Safe in the Heart of Jesus and Mary,
    Lynne

    June 16, 2016

    Link: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12927...s-with-microchips-and-track-their-every-move/

    Cardinal Sarah: On the movement of “gender ideology” toward the counterfeit man:

    The West refuses to receive, and will accept only what it constructs for itself. Transhumanism is the ultimate avatar of this movement. Because it is a gift from God, human nature itself becomes unbearable for western man. This revolt is spiritual at root."
     
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    How smart is Cardinal Sarah?

    He is so wise!
     
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    "Many believe tribalism will also be eliminated"

    Well apparently "American" Globalists haven't gotten THAT part of the memo. :whistle: It's White vs Black vs Latino vs Asian vs Trans vs Cis vs Feminist vs Men. On and on.
     
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    I was interested in concepts like the singularity prior to becoming a Catholic. It starts with a fundamental error that consciousness and intelligence are something that we evolved. Unfortunately, the consciousness is trapped in a fleshly body that will wear out in 70-80 years, so a lot of the hopes are to eliminate suffering and extend lifespans.

    I kind of have compassion for these people... They indirectly understand that death isn't the design and they're searching for eternal life, but they're just looking in the wrong places.
     
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    The division won't last and that's what they are afraid of and know is a coming eventuality. All it will take is the right crisis to set the ball rolling and populism (Donald Trump anyone?) will rise and devour the rich and powerful and all their sacred cows yet again. They created this. Look at Europe and the great migrations of people into it in an attempt to prop up a failing welfare state that is not replacing itself due to abysmal birth rates in native Europeans. The only problem being that the people migrating are not replacing the tax base but creating more demand for welfare and social programs to support them while contributing virtually nothing.
    The same is happening here in the US. Biden is promising more welfare and social relief and has no way to pay for it so is proposing taxing "unrealized gains" on imaginary profits for the wealthiest Americans of course. As this goes on it will get more entertaining as they are unable to fleece the rich and instead conjure up new and exciting ways to fleece the middle class and reallocate those funds to the collective to pacify the masses if for only a little while longer...
     
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    Nail, meet hammer. :)
     
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    It won't end well....any student of history knows this.
     
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    I reckon this leads to man loosing his free will, his will to choose God and will end up being controlled and this is when will cut man off from God. So this is how man can permanently chooses Satan over God.
     
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    Man has been created in the likeness of God. Change man as the transhumanists intend, and those changed will no longer possess the likeness of God.

    They crave the creation of their own immortality, but think about it...the Universe itself, as described by the Laws of Thermodynamics, is designed to die. Do they foresee their ability to outlive the Universe?

    As Johnny Cash sang, 'you can run along for a long time, but sooner or later God's gonna cut you down'. Even if these lunatics succeed in translating their consciousnesses into a practically indestructible metal 'body', it simply requires merely enough time before a truck pins them against a wall at 100mph or an asteroid lands on them. God will find a way!

    What's left of their souls can have little chance of entering Heaven, it seems to me-I suspect Our Lord might advise them to go and construct their own. They could call it TransHeaven, although it will only turn out to be Hell (I suggest the anthem of TransHeaven/Hell be 'I did it my way').
     
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    The thing about people thinking they can become immortal is that it leaves little space or few resources for anyone else. It's the ultimate elitism. I'm going to be hanging around forever, so that's just tough for any future generations, no room for you at the inn. I'd think that there will be objections from those (vast masses) who get not to qualify for the privilege.

    There is a great irony with these people who worship the illusory concept of 'artificial intelligence'. They are generally the same people who dismiss the notion of consciousness in human beings, reducing our thoughts to nothing more than the product of random, unintended electrical impulses in our brains. Yet, they imagine that such merely material, deterministic human beings can magic other forms of matter into actual intelligence, a quality that by their own logic we ourselves cannot possess. Modernists are very strong on technical information, but extraordinarily weak on the understanding of knowledge which is required to calculate the meaning and consequences of this knowledge. St. Anthony of the Desert seems to have seen them coming, all those centuries ago.
     
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    Padraig,
    JoeJerk is super-intelligent in a demented way. I bet he could reap great "benefits" from all these trans-humanistic projects. How we fallen creatures lose sight of our profound dignity!

    Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth."29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

    To surrender our exalted status for a contrived immortality! Yes, I truly believe that the timing of a Warning/Miracle is, in part, to thwart this rebuilding of the "Tower of Babel" that you mention. Our fallen nature is so geared to self-destruction!:cry:

    Genesis 11:1 Now the whole earth had one language and few words. 2 And as men migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. 3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly." And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. 4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth." 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the sons of men had built. 6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city.
     
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    I feel the same way, Mario. I just don’t
    think our Lord will let that come to fruition.
    Imho
     
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